The 2013 edition of 13R deals specifically with this by reiterating what the building code states. The 13R handbook commentary for this particular section is a little interesting though and I've had a few go arounds with revewiers in this regard.
It states "This rule applies to the exterior or “open” spaces accessible only from the dwelling unit itself, and not a corridor or breezeway that is shared among multiple dwelling units." It goes on to talk about the need for protecting these areas based upon grilling on the balconies etc. When you read the IBC you don't necessarily come away thinking sprinklers are only necessary on balconies of type V construction that only open up to the unit itself yet the NFPA handbook does specifically call this out. Anyone have any further thoughts on this? On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:39 AM, Dewayne Martinez < [email protected]> wrote: > I can see why the AHJ might want it on the 2nd floor corridor because of > the “occupied” space above. > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]. > org] *On Behalf Of *Travis Mack, SET > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:26 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: NFPA-13R > > > > This is a good example of where you have to follow the code first. If you > are under the IFC, then the requirement for sidewalls on the balconies of R > occupancy and Type V construction has been around since I think the 2003 > edition of the IBC/IFC. So, regardless of the direction of NFPA 13R, you > will need to have the sidewall per the IBC/IFC requirement if that is your > building code that is enforced. > > Travis Mack, SET > > MFP Design, LLC > > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > > 480-505-9271 <(480)%20505-9271> > > fax: 866-430-6107 <(866)%20430-6107> > > email:[email protected] > > > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/travismack > > On 1/25/2017 8:23 AM, Brian Harris wrote: > > Thank you for the info. > > > > *Brian Harris, CET* > > BVS Systems Inc. > > bvssytemsinc.com <http://bvssystemsinc.com/> > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]. > org <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *John > Irwin > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:17 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: NFPA-13R > > > > Pretty much what Travis said. > > > > I usually provide break-out pricing for the corridors because a lot of > AHJs will ask for them regardless. > > > > Regarding the balconies, we are in 2010 edition of 13R so they would not > be required, however Florida has adopted the requirement for them in type V > construction. Again, I break out the pricing for these because most people > miss them. > > > > > > > > *John Irwin - CET* > > *Division Manager – Fire Sprinklers* > > *Critical System Solutions, LLC* > > > *Licence Number: FPC16-000053*Cell: 813.618.2781 <(813)%20618-2781> > > Email: [email protected] > > > > [image: certifiedmark300 - small] > > > > *From:* Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]. > org <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Brian > Harris > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:12 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* NFPA-13R > > > > NFPA-13R (2002) 6.8.4 “Sprinklers shall not be required in any porches, > balconies, corridors, and stairs that are open and attached…”. I’m checking > over some plans of a (3) story apartment building, on the 2nd & 3rd floor > there is a hallway down the center length of the building with apartments > on both sides. The plan shows sidewall heads down the length of the > corridor but both ends are open to the outside, are these heads really > needed? While I’m at it what about the attached balconies on the back of > each unit? I guess what exactly does “open & attached…” mean? > > > > *Brian Harris, CET* > > BVS Systems Inc. > > Design Manager > > bvssystemsinc.com > > Phone: 704.896.9989 <(704)%20896-9989> > > Fax: 704.896.1935 <(704)%20896-1935> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler. > org > >
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