Maybe an even better question given Ed’s original problem. I’m going to say
no unless at that spacing it’s listed as QR.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:50 PM Roland Huggins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I would apply then 2016 edition to the 2013 ed as CLARIFICATION.  We added
> to answer your question.  It is NOT The thermal element. It is the listing
> of the sprinkler in order to be QR.  Keep in mind that it was only a cycle
> or two ago where there was NO restriction on mixing thermal sensitivity for
> new installations.  Modifying an existing systems had a restriction but not
> totally new (yea go figure).  We added it but didn’t think about the EC
> sprinkler having a fast response link but a SR rating (common at 20 X 20
> but also smaller areas for lower temp. ratings).
>
> Next question:  Can I use said 20 x 20 spaced EC sprinkler in a light
> hazard occupancy?
>
> Roland
>
>
> Roland Huggins, PE - Senior VP Engineering
>
> American Fire Sprinkler Assn.
>
> Dallas, TX
>
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>
> On Feb 15, 2018, at 2:28 PM, Ed Kramer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Reference section 8.3.3.2 of the 2013 edition of NFPA 13:  “Where QR
> sprinklers are installed, all sprinklers within a compartment shall be
> quick-response unless otherwise permitted in 8.3.3.3.”  Section 8.3.3.3
> isn’t applicable for this question.
>
> I’m protecting an OH II sales area with EC sprinklers spaced (mostly) at
> 18’x18’.  This particular sprinkler is listed as SR at that spacing, but is
> listed as QR for 14’x14’ and smaller spacing.  This sales area has a small
> 20 sf nook (not a separate compartment) that requires an additional
> sprinkler.  My intent is to protect that nook with a K5.6 sprinkler.
>
> Should the K5.6 sprinkler be SR or QR?
>
> The answer is probably SR since the EC sprinklers are installed at a
> spacing that has a SR listing.  But that would be mixing a
> standard-response element with a fast-response element – something I’ve
> been led to believe is not cool.
>
> The 2016 flavor of NFPA 13 has a new section 8.3.3.5 that allows mixing a
> SR listing with a QR listing as long as it’s the same sprinkler (and
> therefor both have the same fast-response element).
>
> Anybody want to give their 2 cents?
>
> *Ed Kramer*
> Bamford Fire Sprinkler Co., Inc.
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