Good point.  Based on John's reference to 9.2.6 in the 2016 edition, and
specifically 9.2.6.3.2 for short pipe stands, I'm thinking I should be OK
without a PE certification as long as I meet all the general requirements
of 9.2.6.
So we may just need to go back to a very short traditional pipe stand with
the U-bolt for restraint.

Larry, for the riser clamp idea, I get what you're saying, but I'm
wondering how this would be any different (or worse) than supporting the
pipe from a regular ring hanger and a single piece of ATR, which we would
normally do if we could support this from the top of the box.
We've done this before with smaller pipe in subfloor spaces for pre-action
systems, but never for this large a pipe. Our plan was also to use 3/4 or
1" pipe sleeves over the ATR to help reinforce them as well.



Benjamin Young

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Larry Keeping <[email protected]> wrote:

> All of the suggestions I've seen in this thread (Fig. 103, Unistrut
> clamps, etc.) are good offerings, but don't forget, those things are not
> listed, so to use them legitimately they need an engineer's certification,
> as per Section 9.1.1.2 of NFPA 13-2013.
>
> Unless you can get an Eng. Cert. for it, I would avoid the riser clamp
> idea. A deluge system will develop some healthy thrust forces up and down
> the length of the main, which could bend the vertical support rods.
>
> Larry Keeping
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> org] On Behalf Of Mike B Morey
> Sent: March-14-18 2:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Supporting pipe in bottom of pre-cast trench
>
> You might also look at the Anvil 103 depending on space available.
>
>
>
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