I’m not sure how this plays into this, if at all.  

 

Section 7.10 and subsections tell us how many standpipes to calc and how much 
water should flow through each.  Annex section A.7.10.1.1 says “If a water 
supply system supplies more than one building OR MORE THAN ONE FIRE AREA, the 
total supply can be calculated based on the single building OR FIRE AREA 
requiring the greatest number of standpipes.”  Capitalization added by moi.    
Since I’m not a IBC kind of guy, how do we define a “fire area”?

 

Ed Kramer

Bamford Fire

 

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Steele, Andrew
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 7:24 AM
To: '[email protected]' 
<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: High Rise and Non-High Rise Standpipes

 

First thought, is it really ONE building, or three (or two, etc. based on 
firewalls).  This is a question for the Architect and/or the Building Official, 
not the FM.   The FM may not know, particularly if they were not involved in 
the structural review/permitting process.  Or they may know, and it is in fact 
one building, a high-rise. 

 

Andrew Steele

 

 

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 12:58 AM
To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: RE: High Rise and Non-High Rise Standpipes

 

A friendly “please provide the code you are looking at” email followed by an 
in-person meeting could be just what the doctor ordered! If what they are 
asking for does not strictly follow the code, you should be able to ask for a 
change order.

 

I will quote one of my preferred sources of info on standpipes - Mr. Señor 
Steve Leyton: “the standpipe system is exclusively for the use of the fire 
department, so give them what they ask for” **

 

I will also give you one of my favorite quotes from one of my very favorite 
sources - [me] : “good luck getting the city council to override a fire marshal 
who says he needs this for the safety of his fire crews and the people in the 
building”

 

Matt 

 

**I realize Señor Leyton already made a very good comment. And I hope it goes 
without saying that my opinion of Steve’s opinion could not possibly hope to 
have any authority or relation to any of the NFPA work that Steve does.

 

 

From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of James 
Litvak
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:44 PM
To: [email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: High Rise and Non-High Rise Standpipes

 

I've got a building that is two towers with a parking garage in between. One 
tower is 11 floors and is a high rise, with two standpipes. The other tower is 
9 floors and isn't a high rise, with three standpipes. The AHJ has said that 
because the towers and garage are all connected, the tower that isn't a high 
rise is considered a high rise with respect to standpipe calculations. I had 
originally considered my calc to be 750 gpm for the two standpipes in the high 
rise, them being automatic wet, and 1000 gpm for the three in the non-high 
rise, them being manual wet. Does it make sense that the AHJ has said it is one 
building with 5 standpipes, and to do a 1000 gpm calc with the two standpipes 
in the high rise and one in the non-high rise (the fire pump is in the non-high 
rise)?

 

 

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