I don't understand the issue with the timeframe. I understand when you are 
doing the 200 psi/50 psi above working pressure test. But when we're talking 
about "testing at working pressure", how is that any different just putting it 
in service? Why are we stressing about testing for 2 hours when it is going to 
be tested at working pressure FOR THE LIFETIME OF THE SYSTEM.


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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of Matthew J Willis
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 7:36 AM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Acceptance testing at working pressure

Seems this one pops up every couple of years.

My take, if you modify 1 sprinkler, you are required to do a 2 hour test, and 
provide the Test Certificate.

The first paragraph states pressure and duration, unless permitted by 1.2 
through 1.5.
These sections only modify pressure. The original duration stipulated in 
25.2.1.1 (16) remains unchanged.

R/
Matt




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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On 
Behalf Of Bruce Verhei
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 5:38 PM
To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Acceptance testing at working pressure

I’d compare this to 13-D test. I’d tell new inspectors to view it as more of a 
leak test.

Not two hours. But best if water is on a little while so leakers show before 
cover.

Best.

Bruce Verhei 

> On Jun 28, 2018, at 14:27, bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I would not infer 2 hours period based on the definition of hydrostatic test 
> in chapter three-- specified pressure for specified time. For new it is 200 
> psi/2hrs. For remodel it is working psi/not specified.
> 
> Disclaimer:
> This is me talking.
> :)
> 
> Brad
> 
> Quoting Mike B Morey <mmo...@shambaugh.com>:
> 
>> Colleagues:
>> We were recently discussing the hydrostatic test requirements of a 
>> head relocate job and I stumbled on to a question.  In the two 
>> exceptions for modifications under 20 sprinklers and modifications 
>> that can't be isolated such as relocating drops, it says they 
>> "require testing at system working pressure".  Is it inferred that 
>> they also require a 2 hour test period? In the past I know I've 
>> worked with clients as a contractor where we did a working pressure 
>> test by simply isolating the system, walking the affected area to 
>> look for leaks, and then checking back at the riser to ensure no drop 
>> in pressure without necessarily sticking to a specific amount of time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mike Morey
>> CFPS 3229 • NICET S.E.T. 123677
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>> Company
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