If your doing a few random scattered sprinklers you are taking about 1" threaded pipe which does not have a high failure rate. I am with Kyle on this one, and we have a warranty to go back if needed, but you will know in very quickly if there is a problem.
Richard M. Carr, SET Project Manager/Design Diboco Fire Sprinklers, Inc. 325 Jackson Loop Road Flat Rock, NC 28731 rich...@diboco.com 828-696-3400 828-696-2288 Fax 828-708-9118 Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On Behalf Of Scott Futrell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:51 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Acceptance testing at working pressure I would say so that someone is responsibly in charge of making sure it doesn't fail. If you put it in service and leave without monitoring the repairs/changes for some given period of time and a failure occurs water damage could be extensive. I understand if it fails in two hours and three minutes no one may be there, but the chance of a leak or failure occurring seems to be higher in the first few minutes/hours than longer. Scott Office: (763) 425-1001 x2 Cell: (612) 759-5556 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 9:47 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Acceptance testing at working pressure I don't understand the issue with the timeframe. I understand when you are doing the 200 psi/50 psi above working pressure test. But when we're talking about "testing at working pressure", how is that any different just putting it in service? Why are we stressing about testing for 2 hours when it is going to be tested at working pressure FOR THE LIFETIME OF THE SYSTEM. -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 7:36 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Acceptance testing at working pressure Seems this one pops up every couple of years. My take, if you modify 1 sprinkler, you are required to do a 2 hour test, and provide the Test Certificate. The first paragraph states pressure and duration, unless permitted by 1.2 through 1.5. These sections only modify pressure. The original duration stipulated in 25.2.1.1 (16) remains unchanged. R/ Matt -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Verhei Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 5:38 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Acceptance testing at working pressure I’d compare this to 13-D test. I’d tell new inspectors to view it as more of a leak test. Not two hours. But best if water is on a little while so leakers show before cover. Best. Bruce Verhei > On Jun 28, 2018, at 14:27, bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com wrote: > > Mike, > > I would not infer 2 hours period based on the definition of hydrostatic test > in chapter three-- specified pressure for specified time. For new it is 200 > psi/2hrs. For remodel it is working psi/not specified. > > Disclaimer: > This is me talking. > :) > > Brad > > Quoting Mike B Morey <mmo...@shambaugh.com>: > >> Colleagues: >> We were recently discussing the hydrostatic test requirements of a >> head relocate job and I stumbled on to a question. In the two >> exceptions for modifications under 20 sprinklers and modifications >> that can't be isolated such as relocating drops, it says they >> "require testing at system working pressure". Is it inferred that >> they also require a 2 hour test period? In the past I know I've >> worked with clients as a contractor where we did a working pressure >> test by simply isolating the system, walking the affected area to >> look for leaks, and then checking back at the riser to ensure no drop >> in pressure without necessarily sticking to a specific amount of time. >> >> >> >> Mike Morey >> CFPS 3229 • NICET S.E.T. 123677 >> Project Manager • Fire Protection Group Shambaugh & Son, LP an EMCOR >> Company >> 7614 Opportunity Drive • Fort Wayne, IN • 46825 direct 260.487.7824 / >> cell 260.417.0625 / fax 260.487.7991 email mmo...@shambaugh.com >> >> >> >> >> >> This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain >> confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. 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