If course. FDC threads damaged. Grab double female, and pump into ground floor outlet.
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 08:35, Steve Leyton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Believe me, firefighters today are trained for just about any eventuality. > Think about it: over the course of many years standpipe systems in many > cities have been designed and built with connections on both ends of the > stairwells. They've been built across at least 2 generations of the standard > with different discharge pressures. There are fire departments in older > cities that carry 3 sets of tips so they can work with higher to lower > pressures as conditions require. The perceived benefits from our side of > the counter may be valid but they are irrelevant to the serving fire > department. Whatever they want is what should be required > > Steve Leyton > (Sent from my smart phone, so please excuse typos and voice-to-text > corruptions.) > > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on > behalf of Trever Williams <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:05:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Hose Connections - Main Stair Landings vs. Intermediate Landings > > I can see subtle benefits for doing it either way, but the benefits seem so > minor that it really shouldn’t matter. It seems like the fire departments > should have training and operational tactics for both situations. Different > jurisdictions do it different ways and they could find themselves lending > support to a jurisdiction that does it the opposite way. > > Trever Williams > Design Manager > Unlimited Sprinkler Fire Protection > 130 Kristen Ln. > Wylie, TX 75098 > 214-349-8444 ex. 312 - Phone > 214-349-8450 - Fax > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Steve Leyton > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Hose Connections - Main Stair Landings vs. Intermediate Landings > > What Bruce said. Both Code (intermediates) and Standard (floors) state what > they state but also contain a provision that essentially says, “Or as > required by the fire official…” If you have any doubt, consult with and > affirm the locations with the fire official. > > I personally like the floor landings because it makes the floor control > assemblies and drains easier on combined systems and most FDs we work with in > the Southwest specify floor landings. But we have more than a few that > prefer the intermediates; this goes to department training practices and > operational tactics so deference to the FD’s preference is paramount. > > My 2¢ only, > > <image001.png> > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Bruce Verhei > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 2:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Hose Connections - Main Stair Landings vs. Intermediate Landings > > I’d contact local FD and see their requirements. > > Floor below was long tradition. Dates back to standpipes being inserted into > stairwell. Now you’re normally in a rated shaft. You don’t need a hose line > to follow once you’re in the rated stairwell. > > Best. > > Bruce Verhei > > On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:39, Steele, Andrew <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It sort of matters; think firefighters flaking out no less than 100-feet of > hose (maybe more) in the stairwell before charging the hose line with > standpipe water. This has to be laid neatly so it does tangle and kink on > charging. Typically the FD will hook to the first outlet BELOW the level of > the fire, but then lay ½ of the hose up the stair above the fire, then come > back down, to make entry on fire floor (laying hose above so it’s easier to > pull into the floor as they are crawling along). Hooking below is so if > things go really bad, the firefighters can hands on follow the hose out into > the stairway and down, hopefully to a safer place. > > The half-level provides for more hose reach into the actual floor. > > Andrew Steele > > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Trever Williams > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 1:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Hose Connections - Main Stair Landings vs. Intermediate Landings > > From a practical standpoint does it matter if the hose connections in the > stairwells are installed on the main floor landings or the intermediate > landings? > > I remember learning years ago that it really doesn’t matter, and in a fully > sprinkled building it really, really doesn’t matter, but lately I’ve been > encountering AHJs that seem to think it matters. > > Trever Williams > Design Manager > Unlimited Sprinkler Fire Protection > 130 Kristen Ln. > Wylie, TX 75098 > 214-349-8444 ex. 312 - Phone > 214-349-8450 - Fax > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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