AIL? Address it later? Best.
> On Jan 15, 2020, at 11:06, Ben Young via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > VIF verify in field > >> On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:49 PM BILL MENSTER via Sprinklerforum >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> NTS. (not too sure) >>> On January 14, 2020 at 3:08 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> My FAVORITE things to put on shop drawings (because it drove our spoiled >>> union fitters CRAZY) was to write GOE or TOE on an over-cut piece of pipe. >>> If we were in a big hurry and had no real idea of where or how to start >>> resolving an issue, I’d use VIF (verify in field). That was always good >>> for a phone call … >>> >>> Steve L. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Sprinklerforum >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 12:03 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: Kyle.Montgomery; Bruce Verhei >>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you familiar with the term ‘C.O.J.’? >>> >>> >>> >>> Heheheh… >>> >>> >>> >>> Just in case you aren’t, it’s not dirty or anything. It means “cut on job”. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Kyle M >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Sprinklerforum >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce >>> Verhei via Sprinklerforum >>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 7:42 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Cc: Bruce Verhei <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) >>> >>> >>> >>> I’ve never drawn up a fab order. I always assumed you’d need this >>> information. Do I get it wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bruce Verhei >>> >>> >>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 06:15, Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I’m curious why there is any confusion over this? >>> >>> >>> >>> Example: If you have sprinklers on sprigs and don’t provide any elevation >>> information, the shop drawing reviewer or permit reviewer will have to >>> calculate the fitting takeouts and sprig lengths to be sure your sprinkler >>> is within the allowable dimensions from the deck. Without piping >>> elevations how will the crew know where the pipe is supposed to be routed >>> so that it doesn’t run into every other system that’s in the same space? >>> >>> >>> >>> When reviewing calculations, having elevations shown on the drawing that >>> correlate to the calcs helps verify that the design depicted on drawings >>> and in the calcs actually match. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dimensions are great too as well as building column lines for reference. >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig Prahl | Jacobs | Group Lead/SME – Fire Protection | 864.676.5252 | >>> [email protected] | www.jacobs.com >>> >>> 1041 East Butler Road Greenville, South Carolina 29606 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On >>> Behalf Of Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo via Sprinklerforum >>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:10 PM >>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>> Cc: Sprinkler Academy - C Bilbo <[email protected]> >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob, >>> The committee wants to see relative elevation changes. This helps with >>> lengths of pipe and calcs too. >>> We use the word relative because it doesn't need to be Above Sea Level. >>> (But I think you already know this!!) >>> >>> Cecil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the >>> NFPA, and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance >>> with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore >>> not be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the >>> NFPA, nor any of their technical committees. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> >>> Cecil Bilbo >>> Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology >>> Champaign, IL >>> 217.607.0325 >>> www.sprinkleracademy.com >>> [email protected] >>> ?? >>> OUR STUDENTS SAVE LIVES!! >>> >>> From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on >>> behalf of Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 3:41:36 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Bob Knight <[email protected]> >>> Subject: NFPA 13, 23.1.3 (37) >>> >>> >>> >>> From NFPA 13 (2013 ED), 23.1.3 (37) Relative elevations of sprinklers, >>> junction points, and supply or reference points. >>> >>> This is probably an obvious question, but not to me. What is this asking >>> for? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob Knight, CET III >>> >>> Fire by Knight, LLC >>> >>> 208-318-3057 >>> >>> <image001.jpg> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged >>> information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any >>> viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by >>> unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. 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