That is what I missed. Correct - if you *do not *comply with 16.3.1 for the pipe or tube you are using, Listed pipe or tube is required.
Thanks, John John August Denhardt, PE *Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* m: p: 301-343-1457 214-349-5965 ext 121 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/1039528345367732224> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/american-fire-sprinkler-association-afsa-/> <https://www.instagram.com/firesprinklerorg/> *Our members are at the heart of everything we do.* *Expand your design department in 2021!* AFSA is taking its popular two-week Beginning Fire Sprinkler System Planning School on the road. From San Diego to Tampa Bay and stops in between, our technical experts will teach the basics of system layout based on the 2019 edition of NFPA 13. Space is limited. Enroll today at https://www.firesprinkler.org/schools. On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 2:42 PM Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > I was looking at NFPA 13 - 2019 16.3.2 "when steel pipe referenced in > 7.3.1.1 is used... ...minimum nominal wall thickness for pressures up to > 300psi shall be in accordance with Schedule 10..." > > Does this require that thinner pipe be listed? > > I was curious if the listed s7/s5 products are any different from plain > ASTM A53 pipes. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sprinklerforum <sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org> On > Behalf Of John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:30 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Cc: John Denhardt <jdenha...@firesprinkler.org> > Subject: Re: schedule 7 pipe? > > Keep in mind, NFPA 13 states piping or tubing that meets Table 7.3.1.1 is > acceptable. Listing is NOT required. > > *NFPA 13 - 2019: 7.3.1.1 Pipe or tube shall meet or exceed one of the > standards in Table 7.3.1.1 or be in accordance with 7.3.3.* > > Thus, as long as any piping or tubing material complies with one of the > standards listed in Table 7.3.1.1, it is acceptable to use. > > I have not used much schedule 7 steel pipe in my career. However, I have > heard many horror stories with this steel pipe. > > Thanks, > John > > John August Denhardt, PE > *Vice President, Engineering and Technical Services* > > *American Fire Sprinkler Association* > m: p: 301-343-1457 > 214-349-5965 ext 121 > w: > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2ffiresprinkler.org&c=E,1,bWryeR7tZ1O1dLjO_NhXR7V9rqsGxiLcfcfxT61KfaRhT9d0vtjwLH8mf5H5b3CwfLZsk5y7lN7JEH9NkkBgwe6xh-RXiPwz27rNQL7VVbhK0GqIrDj-jw,,&typo=1 > <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> > <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/1039528345367732224> > < > https://www.linkedin.com/company/american-fire-sprinkler-association-afsa-/ > > > <https://www.instagram.com/firesprinklerorg/> > > *Our members are at the heart of everything we do.* > > > *Expand your design department in 2021!* AFSA is taking its popular > two-week Beginning Fire Sprinkler System Planning School on the road. From > San Diego to Tampa Bay and stops in between, our technical experts will > teach the basics of system layout based on the 2019 edition of NFPA 13. > Space is limited. Enroll today at > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.firesprinkler.org%2fschools.&c=E,1,qs9LkaxPeR7tDIQVW9-azgrqbr53d67A6UYAwcltYiDIbtUt4GfBVOY5w9T6n83ucR00o4SIsFz_q3_gR4EGrMhmFr-YMwlwqmHdCnLepyggICEUFCpe-zlJxUU,&typo=1 > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:58 AM Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum < > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > > > Has there been any push/interest in allowing unlisted (standard ASTM > > A53) schedule 7 steel pipe to be allowed by code in place of the listed > "flow" > > piping options? > > > > Matt > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flists.firesprinkler > > .org%2flistinfo.cgi%2fsprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org&c=E,1,7rii8OKXA > > UAY3sTqr74qkb_8u6tIjZP00BTkd2h-2502Sweaf0f3SP94B6veam2pdmTDTc3twqER3RP > > e1aQyyUnqyk7j-P2PXtCTbxR8HeD3w1x7AqViLzPK&typo=1 > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flists.firesprinkler.org%2flistinfo.cgi%2fsprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org&c=E,1,MYY-2t_MWoEpGuIZq0hFfqzvPlgneE0QsS5c3SP_vYWPZ6OR1IsDv33M31SO90CHonz-mxqtB8VHDR5dwDD-w_5SpIWGm-s2zq52hKU0Ijw-irZH5p4l160-FmM,&typo=1 > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
