Tim,
We specifically call for "treated" NOT "coated" if you are going to use that 
exception.  "Treated" wood requires a pressure treatment and the coating does 
not qualify. (At least it hasn't met the 20 minute extended tests outlined in 
the standard when we had discussed it.)


It should be recognized that the above is my opinion as a member of the NFPA 13 
Committee, and has not been processed as a formal interpretation in accordance 
with the NFPA Regulations Governing Committee Projects and should therefore not 
be considered, nor relied upon, as the official position of the the NFPA, nor 
any of their technical committees.

Sincerely,


Cecil Bilbo
Academy of Fire Sprinkler Technology
Champaign, IL
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Subject: Fire Retardant Coating used in Combustible concealed spaces

Project is a 100 year old 6 story Steel & Concrete Hotel building. The roof
is steel framed with concrete above and the Sixth floor ceiling is Plaster
over metal lath. Over the years the building has been added onto with wood
framing above the Sixth floor ceilings.

As Part of a major renovation started in 2020, the installation of a
complete NFPA 13 sprinkler system and Standpipes is taking place.



A few substantial combustible concealed spaces have been discovered
throughout the building on other floors too. If nothing is done the
sprinkler design areas would need to be increased to 3,000 SF as outlined in
Chapter 11.2.3.1.5. The sprinkler contractor and I have suggested filling
these spaces with noncombustible Insulation.



The architect and builder are discussing Flame Retardant Coating to be
applied to the wood framing in order meet the Non-Combustible and Limited
Combustible concealed space definition. In reviewing Chapter 11.2.3.1.5.2 I
don't see where Flame Retardant Coating is an option in order to reduce the
design area.



I believe In order to reduce the Design areas these combustible spaces need
to be filled with noncombustible Insulation.



Would "Flame Retardant Coating" be considered an option as outlined in
A.8.15.1.2.11 (commentary text) the equivalency provisions in Section 1.5?



Thank you for your imput.



Regards,

G. Tim Stone



G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC

NICET Level III Engineering Technician

Fire Protection Sprinkler Design

and Consulting Services



   117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452

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