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Monday's Technical Update
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A weekly newsletter dealing with codes and other technical issues

October 13, 2014
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Water Supply for Cooking Hood System

"I have a kitchen hood fire suppression system that cannot take a static 
pressure
above 125 psi.  The supplier wants to connect it to the fire sprinkler system.  
The system has a fire pump that will provide 162 psi adjusted for elevation to 
the
hood system.  They propose installing a pressure-regulating valve on the feed.  
Is this a violation of 6.1.3 and or 7.7.1.1.5 because the suppression system is 
not rated for at least 175 psi?"

We have reviewed NFPA 13, 2013 edition as the applicable standard as well as the
 2014 edition of NFPA 96. Our informal interpretation is that the water supply 
can
be provided from a fire sprinkler system.

Section 10.2.9.2 of NFPA 96, Standard for Ventilation Control and Fire 
Protection
of Commercial Cooking Operations, addresses this question.  It says where the 
water
supply is from a dedicated fire protection water supply in a building with one 
or
more fire sprinkler systems, separate indicating control valves and drains shall
 be provided and arranged so hat the hood system and sprinkler systems can be 
controlled
individually. The manufacturers of the hood fire suppression system will have 
information
on how to pipe and valve the water supply coming from the fire sprinkler system.
  The installation manual for the hood fire suppression system also provides 
information
on appropriate pressure reducing valves to be used to reduce the sprinkler line 
supply pressure and flow rate down to the manufacturer requirements.  As such, 
this
is not a violation of Sections 6.1.3 and 7.7.1.1.5 of NFPA 13.  Since the valve 
is capable of shutting down the water flow, it can be supervised with an 
electronic
switch.  A pressure supervision switch can also be used to verify incoming water
 pressure to the hood suppression system.  NFPA 96 in Section 10.3.2.1 says that
 where an automatic sprinkler system is used in conjunction with a water-based 
fire-extinguishing
system served by the same water supply, hydraulic calculations shall consider 
both
systems operating simultaneously.  One manufacturer says the gallon per minute 
is
calculated by multiplying the length of the hood by 1.5 gpm.
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Technical Update is prepared by the Technical Services Dept. of the AFSA: Vice 
President
of Engineering and Technical Services Roland Huggins, a PE registered in fire 
protection
engineering; Phill Brown, a NICET IV certified automatic sprinkler technician 
and
NFPA Certified Fire Protection Specialist (CFPS) and Tom Wellen, a PE registered
 in fire protection engineering. This is provided with the understanding that 
the
AFSA assumes no liability for this opinion or actions taken on it and they are 
not
to be considered the official position of the NFPA or its technical committees.
Copyright 2014, American Fire Sprinkler Association.
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