Hi, Showing too much enthousiasm only for "Anaconda" may tie Spyder good fortune even more to Continuum IO than it is today.
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 11:10:41 PM UTC+1, Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos wrote: > > Hi again users and devs :) > > Now looks is not everything and I wanted to also talk a bit a bit about > what defaults should we have on Spyder when starting fresh, some widgets > and also plugins > > *The template* > The template is what every noob will see the first time they start Spyder, > why not make the best we can to have the best but minimal template? > > - Include a def main (): > - Include the boilerplate (if __name__ == "__main__": main()) > - Include the basic scientific imports with their standard aliases > - (numpy as np, scipy as sp, matplotlib.pyplot as plt... > - shebang (# /usr/bin/env python) > > *PEP8 * > I think we should enforce the use of pep8 right from the start. Some > people > first experience with Python is through Spyder, why not enforce pep8 right > from the beginning when people are more easily persuaded? > > Also on this line, why not make 'remove trailing spaces' also a default > > *Object inspector* > The automatic connections seem like a great idea why not make at least the > editor > a default? > > *Online Help* > I hate this plugin, it looks horrible, I would argue that it needs to go > to the trash! > > *Plugins* > The idea of plugins needs to be tackled ASAP. Of course the backbone for > this is already there > but we need to give the next step. > > - Autodiscovery of plugins > - Make developing plugins inside Spyder simple providing templates in > the file explorer > - Provide through projects something similar (create a new Project > would give the option to make a spyder plugin) > - I think in the view menu we need to have Panes (Standard in Spyder), > and Plugins (3rd party plugins) > - I think plugins should be *pip* installable or/and, *conda* > installable (with the conda plugin) > - Once plugins are installable, profiler, pylint and conda packages > should go to their own repos > > *Anaconda* > This might be a touchy subject for some, but I will go ahead anyway. > > Before conda and the anaconda distribution the chances of getting people > in my institute to switch > to a Python based stack were pretty low. After anaconda, that has > dramatically changed and I expect a full > conversion (from matlab and delphi... yuck!) by the end of 2015 :) > > I know there is winpython and python xy, and etc etc, but perhaps we > should enforce the use of anaconda > with a bit more enthusiasm. > > The advantages are clear to me: > > - Stable installation cross platform > - The use of conda environments allows for a compact and stable use > and reuse (sharing) of science :) > - A broad array of ready to use scientific packages > - The ability to use the conda package manager plugin inside Spyder to > install ALL of Spyder plugins > - The ability to have dedicated Spyder and Binstar ( > https://binstar.org/dashboard) channels > - Provide dedicated experiences for different disciplines > - Have a metapackage to install all the basic optional dependencies > on spyder on one click > - Have a metapackage to install all the basic optional plugins on > spyder on one click > > What are your thoughts on these issues I raise? > > Please comment and remember to follow/subscribe/like/request membership to > the new > Spyder communication channels > > *Be Social* > > - Twitter <https://twitter.com/spyder_ide>, Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/SpyderIDE>, Google+ Page > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/107193318474220481102/107193318474220481102> > > - Google+ Community > > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/107193318474220481102/communities/112932801653352854842> > - Youtube channel > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK0uCG7DVzKUAhaw8veitkw> > > > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spyder" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to spyderlib+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to spyderlib@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.