Gonzalo, I have the same question as Phillip.
It would be very concerning if drag-drop style "editor tab-reordering" was not included in the 3.0 release. My productivity in Spyder is held back on a daily basis due to not having this capability. So I look forward to the 3.0 release mainly for this feature, and I may not be alone in this. Thank you, Dan On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 3:20:59 PM UTC-4, Phillip Vallance wrote: > > > Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos, > > > Does this mean tab-reordering won't be apart of the 3.0 release? > > > > > > On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 12:13:28 PM UTC-4, Gonzalo Peña-Castellanos > wrote: >> >> Hi Dan thanks for your comments. >> >> It is very encouraging for the developer team to hear about new users >> (mostly) happy with Spyder. >> >> I am in charge of making the tab ordering for the editor >> https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/pull/2372, but I am not entirely >> happy with the approach I took so I need to start again. However rest >> assured that this is something in our radar. >> >> Cheers >> >> On Wednesday, 30 March 2016 09:21:15 UTC-5, Dan Codiga wrote: >>> >>> Thank you for the suggestion about WinPdb. I will try that. I don't use >>> a debugger a whole lot either. My code is typically just barely complex >>> enough to need a debugger, but not so simple that I can be productive >>> without a good IDE (i.e. with just a text editor, or with just ipython >>> notebook). >>> >>> I did go get and try PyCharm (community edition). My experience was not >>> successful with it yet. As it is mainly built for software developers, not >>> scientific programmers, I found it frustratingly complex and inflexible. I >>> don't need the rigidity of keeping all files/folders as a designated >>> 'project', as it requires. My code is oriented around interactive work, and >>> is based on ipython (including some of its magic commands)-- neither of >>> which go well when using the main 'run console' that is the default around >>> which PyCharm is built. (Unless I am misunderstanding something ... see >>> https://intellij-support.jetbrains.com/hc/en-us/requests/655254?flash_digest=f0b9cdbc61c6b9f58c958b0e0c6e3ed5df1a3e23.) >>> >>> Furthermore, their debugger may be good but it is only well-integrated with >>> their 'run console', not necessarily the ipython console, as far as I could >>> tell. I had some existing code (modest number of files and simple folder >>> tree) that worked well within Spyder and didn't need to modify the path or >>> mess with PYTHONPATH or any other environment variables, and I found that >>> to get it to run inside PyCharm I had to let PyCharm change the path and >>> use PYTHONPATH. Furthermore my code imported cx_Oracle (a version that >>> causes no error) but when run in PyCharm that import found and used a >>> different cx_Oracle, that came with PyCharm, and caused an obscure Win32 >>> error. >>> >>> So for now I am sticking with Spyder. If I find that WinPdb meets my >>> debugging needs with Spyder, then the main thing about Spyder that I still >>> find limiting is that I can't reorder tabs in the editor (which of course >>> PyCharm does rather well). >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 2:28:25 PM UTC-5, Nikolay Karelin wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Dan, >>>> >>>> If the debugger in Spyder is limiting for you, you can try WinPdb - it >>>> is not quite supported, but rather well written. Alternatively, you can >>>> use >>>> some 'real' Python IDE with powerful debugger. I prefer PyCharm (free >>>> version is ok) for that. >>>> >>>> But when I once asked on local Python meetup "Guys, which debugger do >>>> you prefer?", most of audience told - print or logging is enough except >>>> really complex situations ;) >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 8:02:24 PM UTC+3, Dan Codiga wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am a scientific programmer with many years of Matlab experience, and >>>>> have been using Spyder over the past several months as I learn Python and >>>>> transition to using it instead of Matlab. Overall I am happy with Spyder >>>>> as >>>>> an IDE. (Using it on Win7 64bit.) >>>>> >>>>> However, there are at least a few aspects that I consider to be >>>>> important weaknesses. In particular: the debugger is quite limited and >>>>> frustrating; I can't drag-drop to reorder tabs in the editor; and >>>>> oftentimes the File Explorer doesn't update (if there is an easy way to >>>>> trigger an update please point me to it). >>>>> >>>>> Will the next release of Spyder (3.0, as I understand it) address >>>>> these issues? If so, in what ways? >>>>> >>>>> And what is the latest guesstimate for when the next release will be >>>>> out? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spyder" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to spyderlib+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to spyderlib@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/spyderlib. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
