I just realized that you really dont need to even use schema_translate_map at 
all here. If you use a completely straight env.py, and simply set 
search_path=SCHEMA, you should be able to run Alembic in entirely "schemaless" 
mode; don't include schemas anywhere nor would you need to set it for the 
alembic version table. Postgresql will also CREATE/ ALTER in that schema as 
well. As long as your environment runs completely in just one schema at a time, 
this can be set up entirely at the connection level.


On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Brian Hill wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 8:20:06 PM UTC-4, Mike Bayer wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Brian Hill wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 7:19:08 PM UTC-4, Mike Bayer wrote:
>>>> so let me get this straight:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. you have many schemas
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> yes
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2. you want to run autogenerate only once
>>> 
>>> yes
>>> 
>>>> 3. you want your mirations genrated with None for schema
>>> 
>>> yes
>>> 
>>>> 4. *HOWEVER*, when you run autogenerate, you are picking *one* (random? 
>>>> arbitrary?) schema to use as the target, is that right?
>>> 
>>> yes one, but it won't be arbitrary, it will be a development schema 
>>> generated from the latest version (prior to the change we want to 
>>> autogenerate).
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> As it stands, your autogenerate is not going to look in any schema except 
>>>> "public", assuming default PG search path, because you did not set 
>>>> "include_schemas=True".
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> i had it set to True and it behaves the same. i just took it out based on 
>>> your previous suggestion, but again, it behaves the same.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you truly want autogenerate to look at one schema and only that schema, 
>>>> and generate everything as non-schema qualified, then I would simply set 
>>>> the default schema in PG to that schema name using search_path:
>>>> 
>>>> connection.execute("SET search_path TO my_schema")
>>>> 
>>>> that way everything Alembic reflects will be from "my_schema" and it will 
>>>> see the schema as blank, and it should generate as such. you might need to 
>>>> disable the schema translate map when autogenerate runs but try it without 
>>>> doing that first.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> it's still generating the entire schema in the revision file.
>>> 
>>> here's the updated section and it behaves the same with/without schema 
>>> translate map:
>>> 
>>> with connectable.connect() as connection:
>>> 
>>> # create DB_SCHEMA if it doesn't exist
>>> connection.execute(f'create schema if not exists {DB_SCHEMA}')
>>> 
>>> # map metadata schema (None) to DB_SCHEMA
>>> # connection = 
>>> connection.execution_options(schema_translate_map={None:DB_SCHEMA})
>>> 
>>> connection.execute(f"set search_path to {DB_SCHEMA}")
>>> 
>>> # set alembic version table location in DB_SCHEMA
>>> context.configure(
>>> connection=connection,
>>> include_schemas=True,
>>> target_metadata=metadata,
>>> version_table_schema=DB_SCHEMA,
>>> )
>>> 
>>> with context.begin_transaction():
>>> context.run_migrations()
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> no, don't use "include_schemas". you want to run alembic in a mode where it 
>> has no idea there are other schemas to use. i think version_table_schema is 
>> OK here but don't use include_schemas. Also turn on INFO or DEBUG logging 
>> for the sqlalchemy logger to see exactly what tables it is reflecting.
> 
> same behavior, entire schema generated. i'll look at using INFO and DEBUG 
> tomorrow to get a better idea of what's going on, but using public as my dev 
> schema to autogenerate against works. i just have to exclude the alembic 
> tables.
> 
> again thanks for your help in understanding what i was trying to do.
> 
> brian
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Brian Hill wrote:
>>>>> Here's my env.py. Thanks for the help.
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 5:37:38 PM UTC-4, Mike Bayer wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Brian Hill wrote:
>>>>>>> Are there known issues with using autogenerate with multi-tenant 
>>>>>>> (schema_translate_map)?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> it's complicated and not one-size-fits-all, if you consider that to be 
>>>>>> an issue
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My metadata doesn't have a schema and I my 
>>>>>>> schema_translate_map={None:'my_schema'}.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This works for migrations but when I use autogenerate the generated 
>>>>>>> revision file is the full schema and not the diff.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's detecting the alembic version table in the tenant schema. If I run 
>>>>>>> the autogenerate a second time with the new revision file it fails 
>>>>>>> saying Taget database is not up to date.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> are you setting include_schemas=True in your environment? I'd probably 
>>>>>> not do this. Can't help much more without a complete and concise working 
>>>>>> example of your env.py, please remove all extraneous details.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>> 

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