I really hate laTex, I never liked it, how about adobe? I can help if it is 
needed.


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Piensa en el medio ambiente - mantenlo en la pantalla. NO lo imprimas si NO es 
necesario.
Think green - keep it on the screen. Do NOT print if it is NOT necessary.
Denken Sie an die Umwelt - bewahren Sie es auf dem Bildschirm. Drucken Sie es 
NICHT, wenn es NICHT notwendig ist.


> Subject: Re: [sqlalchemy] Docs in PDF are not being generated
> From: mike...@zzzcomputing.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:53:27 -0500
> To: sqlalchemy@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Vraj Mohan wrote:
> 
> > Is there any interest in having this fixed?
> 
> 
> I'd love someone to take it on and fix it, sure.    I've been asking around 
> for help for years, as I still see people publishing entire books with LaTeX.
> 
> To proceed here, just learn how to do the Sphinx build and then figure out 
> how to get "make pdf" to proceed without warnings.   There's this very 
> strange aspect of LaTex which is that it has to be run *twice* (or more?)  in 
> order to generate the PDF file with the table of contents included - the 
> first run, you get a PDF without a TOC.   The Sphinx Makefile attempts to do 
> this but because our build spits out so many warnings, it has to be fought 
> with in order to proceed.   The readthedocs environment doesn't seem to be 
> able to get through this (though it has in the past, I've no idea why).
> 
> I've asked people before about this seemingly ridiculous "generate twice" 
> requirement of LaTeX and I get these incredulous answers like "why? what's 
> wrong with running it twice?", as though I'm being unreasonable.   As I 
> continue to see people swearing by LaTeX, the entire field is just very 
> disturbing to me.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > I am new to SQLAlchemy and
> > am keen to learn both SQLAlchemy and Sphinx, and have some time to
> > spare. If there's not much interest in the PDFs, I am open to help in
> > other areas.
> > 
> > --Vraj
> > 
> > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Michael Bayer <mike...@zzzcomputing.com> 
> > wrote:
> >> the PDFS have generated very poorly for quite some time and readthedocs
> >> environment is not able to adapt to the many warnings it generates for
> >> SQLAlchemy's documentation.   I've was n the Sphinx list a few years ago at
> >> this point asking for solutions regarding some of these warnings and was 
> >> not
> >> able to get help on them - some of the constructs that Sphinx allows (and
> >> which we really need, namely code examples underneath a :param:) aren't
> >> compatible with their LaTeX model.    I don't have the resources personally
> >> to keep banging my head against the immensely antiquated LaTeX tools, not 
> >> to
> >> mention readthedocs not getting around to fixing things either, so I've
> >> taken the PDF links off the site.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Jan 30, 2013, at 2:50 AM, Vraj Mohan wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I noticed that documents in PDF for 0.8 and development are not being
> >> generated in readthedocs.org.
> >> 
> >> I tried to build these myself with a development snapshot and had the same
> >> failures.
> >> 
> >> I then noticed that if a pickled environment was already created, the PDF
> >> would be generated fine. In other words, "make pickle", "make html", etc
> >> would create a pickled environment which would then cause "make latexpdf" 
> >> to
> >> succeed.
> >> 
> >> I am not an expert on Sphinx - I thought this would be useful information
> >> for someone more knowledgeable than me.
> >> 
> >> --Vraj Mohan
> >> 
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