pymssql produces the same results as pyodbc. So it looks like a SQL Server 
issue.

On Monday, May 12, 2014 8:06:08 PM UTC-4, Seth P wrote:
>
> Fair enough. I'll take a look at pymssql, though I suspect it may be a SQL 
> Server rather than a driver issue.
>
>
> On Monday, May 12, 2014 7:50:03 PM UTC-4, Michael Bayer wrote:
>>
>>
>> On May 12, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Seth P <spad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looks like other people have encountered similar problems with indices 
>> being ignored by prepared sql statements: 
>> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/43250afa.7010...@arbash-meinel.com. 
>> (If the diagnosis there is correct, then I'm guessing the server would use 
>> a unique index where all the columns of the index are specified.) Also, 
>> Thierry Florac's post 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sqlalchemy/k_9ZGI-e85E sounds 
>> similar.
>> (I suspect my earlier hypothesis about int vs varchar is a red herring.)
>>
>> I think it would be useful (albeit risky, if not careful) to have an 
>> option to plug in parameters client-side. I presume not trivial to add to 
>> SQLAlchemy? I don't see such an option for pyodbc.
>>
>>
>> there’s mechanisms for this but they aren’t very widely advertised since 
>> as you know allowing people to do such would be an *enormous* security 
>> hole, and I don’t have the resources to be responsible for parameter 
>> escaping.   It would be better if you could try pymssql (much more actively 
>> maintained than pyodbc from what i can tell) and/or file a bug with pyodbc.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 12, 2014 7:09:08 PM UTC-4, Seth P wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep, it's not a SQLAlchemy issue. The following code demonstrates the 
>>> problem with direct pyodbc access.
>>>
>>> import pyodbc
>>> import time
>>>
>>> def print_timing(func):
>>>     def wrapper(*arg):
>>>         t1 = time.time()
>>>         rows = func(*arg)
>>>         t2 = time.time()
>>>         print("%30s() len=%d, last=%s, runtime=%0.3fs" % 
>>> (str(func).split(' at')[0][10:], len(rows), rows[-1], t2 - t1))
>>>         return t2 - t1
>>>     return wrapper
>>>
>>> if __name__ == '__main__':
>>>     cnxn = pyodbc.connect('DRIVER={SQL 
>>> Server};SERVER=Compustat;DATABASE=Compustat')
>>>     cursor = cnxn.cursor()
>>>     sql_select_statement_base = "SELECT datadate, prcod FROM sec_dprc 
>>> WHERE gvkey = ? ORDER BY datadate"
>>>     key = '001045'
>>>
>>>     @print_timing
>>>     def execute_explicit_query():
>>>         sql_select_statement_explicit = 
>>> sql_select_statement_base.replace("?", "'%s'" % key)
>>>         rows = cursor.execute(sql_select_statement_explicit).fetchall()
>>>         return rows
>>>
>>>     @print_timing
>>>     def execute_parameterized_query():
>>>         rows = cursor.execute(sql_select_statement_base, key).fetchall()
>>>         return rows
>>>
>>>     num_iterations = 5
>>>     explicit_runtime = 0.0
>>>     parameterized_runtime = 0.0
>>>     for i in range(num_iterations):
>>>         explicit_runtime += execute_explicit_query()
>>>         parameterized_runtime += execute_parameterized_query()
>>>     print("Total runtime for %d explicit queries = %0.3fs." % 
>>> (num_iterations, explicit_runtime))
>>>     print("Total runtime for %d parameterized queries = %0.3fs." % 
>>> (num_iterations, parameterized_runtime))
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 12, 2014 6:40:48 PM UTC-4, Michael Bayer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 12, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Seth P <spad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible that the (primary key index (which is a composite index 
>>>> that begins with gvkey, and is the only index on the table) isn't being 
>>>> used because the the gvkey parameter is somehow passed as an integer 
>>>> rather 
>>>> than as a string?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There’s nothing in SQLAlchemy that coerces strings to integers.  If the 
>>>> actual type of the column on the DB is an integer, then there might be 
>>>> some 
>>>> conversion within pyodbc or the ODBC driver.
>>>>
>>>> if you’ve got it narrowed down this much the next step is to figure out 
>>>> a raw pyodbc script that illustrates what the problem is. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The first EXEC below is pretty much instantaneous, whereas the second 
>>>> takes about 8 seconds (and produces the same results).
>>>>
>>>> EXEC sp_executesql
>>>> N'SELECT sec_dprc.datadate AS sec_dprc_datadate, sec_dprc.prcod AS 
>>>> sec_dprc_prcod
>>>> FROM sec_dprc WHERE sec_dprc.gvkey = @gvkey ORDER BY sec_dprc.datadate',
>>>> N'@gvkey VARCHAR(6)', '001045'
>>>>
>>>> EXEC sp_executesql
>>>> N'SELECT sec_dprc.datadate AS sec_dprc_datadate, sec_dprc.prcod AS 
>>>> sec_dprc_prcod
>>>> FROM sec_dprc WHERE sec_dprc.gvkey = @gvkey ORDER BY sec_dprc.datadate',
>>>> N'@gvkey INT', 001045
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 12, 2014 5:00:27 PM UTC-4, Michael Bayer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> well there’s only one parameter being processed here so there is 
>>>>> clearly negligible difference in time spent within Python as far as 
>>>>> getting 
>>>>> the statement ready to execute and then executing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So the time is either in what SQL Server spends fetching the rows, or 
>>>>> the number of rows being fetched (which seems to be the same).   Which 
>>>>> leaves pretty much that SQL Server is making a different choice about the 
>>>>> query plan for this SELECT statement, this is typically due to an INDEX 
>>>>> being used or not.    You’d need to analyze the plan being used.   With 
>>>>> SQL 
>>>>> Server, the option to get a plan within programmatic execution seems to 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> per this answer 
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7359702/how-do-i-obtain-a-query-execution-planto
>>>>>  execute “SET SHOWPLAN_TEXT ON” ahead of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides that, you can confirm where the time is being spent exactly 
>>>>> using Python profiling.   A description on how to achieve that is here: 
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1171166/how-can-i-profile-a-sqlalchemy-powered-application/1175677#1175677
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 12, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Seth P <spad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> After tracking down some extreme slowness in loading a one-to-many 
>>>>> relationship (e.g. myobject.foobars), I seem to have isolated the issue 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> engine.execute() being much slower with parameterized queries than with 
>>>>> explicit queries. The following is actual code and output for loading 
>>>>> 10,971 rows from a database table. (The actual table has more columns 
>>>>> than 
>>>>> I'm including here, and is not designed by me.) Note that each explicit 
>>>>> query (where I explicitly set the WHERE clause parameter and pass the 
>>>>> resulting SQL statement to engine.execute()) runs in under 0.1 seconds, 
>>>>> whereas each parameterized query (where I let SQLAlchemy bind the WHERE 
>>>>> clause parameter) takes over 8 seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> The difference in runtimes is smaller when the number of rows returned 
>>>>> is smaller, which seems odd since I would have thought that the binding 
>>>>> of 
>>>>> the WHERE clause parameters is just done once and would be virtually 
>>>>> instantaneous.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Seth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> import sqlalchemy as sa
>>>>> from sqlalchemy.orm import sessionmaker
>>>>> from sqlalchemy.ext.declarative import declarative_base
>>>>> import time
>>>>>
>>>>> engine = sa.create_engine('mssql+pyodbc://Compustat/Compustat')
>>>>> session = sessionmaker(bind=engine, autoflush=False, 
>>>>> expire_on_commit=False)()
>>>>>
>>>>> class FooBar(declarative_base()):
>>>>>     __tablename__ = 'sec_dprc'
>>>>>     gvkey = sa.Column(sa.String(6), primary_key=True)
>>>>>     datadate = sa.Column(sa.DateTime, primary_key=True)
>>>>>     value = sa.Column(sa.Float, name='prcod')
>>>>>
>>>>> def print_timing(func):
>>>>>     def wrapper(*arg):
>>>>>         t1 = time.time()
>>>>>         rows = func(*arg)
>>>>>         t2 = time.time()
>>>>>         print("%30s() len=%d, last=%s, runtime=%0.3fs" % 
>>>>> (str(func).split(' at')[0][10:], len(rows), rows[-1], t2 - t1))
>>>>>         return t2 - t1
>>>>>     return wrapper
>>>>>
>>>>> if __name__ == '__main__':
>>>>>
>>>>>     key = '001045'
>>>>>     query = session.query(FooBar.datadate, 
>>>>> FooBar.value).filter(sa.and_(FooBar.gvkey == 
>>>>> key)).order_by(FooBar.datadate)
>>>>>     sql_select_statement_base = str(query)
>>>>>     print(sql_select_statement_base)
>>>>>
>>>>>     @print_timing
>>>>>     def execute_explicit_query():
>>>>>         sql_select_statement_explicit = 
>>>>> sql_select_statement_base.replace(":gvkey_1", "'%s'" % key)
>>>>>         rows = 
>>>>> engine.execute(sa.text(sql_select_statement_explicit)).fetchall()
>>>>>         return rows
>>>>>
>>>>>     @print_timing
>>>>>     def execute_parameterized_query():
>>>>>         rows = engine.execute(sa.text(sql_select_statement_base), 
>>>>> {'gvkey_1':key}).fetchall()
>>>>>         return rows
>>>>>
>>>>>     num_iterations = 5
>>>>>     explicit_runtime = 0.0
>>>>>     parameterized_runtime = 0.0
>>>>>     for i in range(num_iterations):
>>>>>         explicit_runtime += execute_explicit_query()
>>>>>         parameterized_runtime += execute_parameterized_query()
>>>>>     print("Total runtime for %d explicit queries = %0.3fs." % 
>>>>> (num_iterations, explicit_runtime))
>>>>>     print("Total runtime for %d parameterized queries = %0.3fs." % 
>>>>> (num_iterations, parameterized_runtime))
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> SELECT sec_dprc.datadate AS sec_dprc_datadate, sec_dprc.prcod AS 
>>>>> sec_dprc_prcod 
>>>>> FROM sec_dprc 
>>>>> WHERE sec_dprc.gvkey = :gvkey_1 ORDER BY sec_dprc.datadate
>>>>>         execute_explicit_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=0.082s
>>>>>    execute_parameterized_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=8.852s
>>>>>         execute_explicit_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=0.032s
>>>>>    execute_parameterized_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=8.754s
>>>>>         execute_explicit_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=0.039s
>>>>>    execute_parameterized_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=9.182s
>>>>>         execute_explicit_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=0.028s
>>>>>    execute_parameterized_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=9.416s
>>>>>         execute_explicit_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=0.080s
>>>>>    execute_parameterized_query() len=10971, 
>>>>> last=(datetime.datetime(2014, 5, 9, 0, 0), 37.96), runtime=8.425s
>>>>> Total runtime for 5 explicit queries = 0.260s.
>>>>> Total runtime for 5 parameterized queries = 44.629s.
>>>>>
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