I’m reviewing the README.dialects and README.unittests files.  It certainly 
appears that this is a task that I can take on.

 

How do we go about splitting the Firebird support into a separate plugin?  Or 
perhaps, how was the sqlalchemy-access project created from the sqlalchemy 
master?

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

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On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 11:05 PM, Paul Graves-DesLauriers wrote:

This is unexpected…

 

I can do this if we can get things setup similarly to the sqlalchemy-access 
dialect.

 

Is there a test set for confirming the dialect is acceptable for SQLAlchemy?  
Is there a sample test set I can use to confirm Firebird will work as expected 
(Like you use for SQL Server, Oracle, PostgreSQL, etc.)?  If so, I’m willing to 
give it a shot.  I am extremely happy with Firebird as a database and will 
probably end up doing this kind of work anyway…

 

 

SQLAlchemy contains a test suite that is explicitly for third party dialects to 
aim towards.     The vast majority of SQLAlchemy tests aren't needed for third 
party dialects to support, so the third party suite contains a much more 
carefully maintained set of "exportable" tests that every dialect should 
address, either by ensuring support is present or by marking a certain 
capability as skipped.

 

The background for this system is discussed at 
https://github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/blob/master/README.dialects.rst. 
<https://github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy/blob/master/README.dialects.rst>    
The sqlalchemy-access work we just did allowed us to fix a few cases, so if 
Firebird can target this that would be how it does its tests once on the 
outside.

 

 

 

 

 

Paul

 

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Would you be interested in maintaining / owning / releasing Firebird 
separately, under   github.com/sqlalchemy/sqlalchemy-firebird 
<http://github.com/sqlalchemy/firebird>  ?    Because this is not a widely used 
dialect and I can't maintain CI for it under my own umbrella,  it would benefit 
by being maintained  and released separately.      We have recently modernized 
sqlalchemy-access with a new maintainer in a similar way.

 

 

 

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Paul Graves-DesLauriers wrote:

I saw in the SQLAlchemy 1.3 Documentation page for Firebird 
<https://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/13/dialects/firebird.html>  that the 'Firebird 
dialect within SQLAlchemy is not currently supported.  The dialect is not 
tested within continuous integration and is likely to have many issues and 
caveats not currently handled.'

 

I'd like to see the Firebird database have ongoing support within SQLAlchemy.  
Firebird has been my database of choice since version 1.0, am currently using 
it, and plan to continue using it in the future.  It is still in active 
development.

 

For Python, I use the fdb DBAPI (official driver) along with Firebird dialect3 
(current).  I would suggest removing support for the old dialect1 and 
kinterbasdb driver to simplify maintenance and testing.

 

 

Can I help with getting the dialect tested within the continuous integration 
and with resolving issues and caveats?  I use Jenkins on a daily basis and have 
been using Python for about 8 years. I'm now a performance test engineer, but 
have many years of experience as a software developer as well.  I am also 
willing to help with documentation and support.

 

Are there any other issues causing the Firebird database to losing ongoing 
support for it?

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

 

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