do_orm_execute() (and freezing the results) totally allows for what I'm 
trying to do! Also I forgot to mention earlier, but this is only going to 
run in tests.

Thanks again for all the help,
Tony

On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 11:10:23 PM UTC+8 Mike Bayer wrote:

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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, at 10:46 AM, 'Tony Cosentini' via sqlalchemy wrote:
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> Oh I see, thanks for clarifying.
>
> I'm trying to detect cases where we depend on the autoflush behavior. For 
> example, in the sample above, when the query runs with no_autoflush, we 
> won't get back any results (when previously we would get back one row). 
> It's a fairly large codebase, so I was trying to automate finding these 
> cases in order to add explicit flush calls when needed or just pass in the 
> pending object instead of running a query.
>
>
>
> there's not really an event for an object that just gets returned by a 
> query from the identity map.    you would need to do something more drastic 
> like a do_orm_execute() hook that runs queries internally and then looks at 
> all the returned objects.  i wouldnt put that in production.
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> Tony
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 10:42 PM Mike Bayer <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, at 9:50 AM, 'Tony Cosentini' via sqlalchemy wrote:
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> Weird, I did try that but I can't seem to trigger it.
>
> Here's a self-contained test: 
> https://gist.github.com/tonycosentini/4dee3478695d032ca67707b5e26739b6
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>
>
> the object was not affected in that query (that is, not mutated).  if you 
> change the query to this:
>
>      table_one_instances = 
> session.query(TableOne).populate_existing().all()
>
> then the refresh event is triggered.
>
> Im not really following what kind of bug you are trying to detect.
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> I have the event listener set to just crash, but it never triggers.
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:20 PM Mike Bayer <[email protected]> 
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> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, at 8:08 AM, 'Tony Cosentini' via sqlalchemy wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> Is there any way to listen for an event for when a query result gets 
> merged into a pre-existing object in the session?
>
>
> this is the refresh event:
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> https://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/20/orm/events.html#sqlalchemy.orm.InstanceEvents.refresh
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> I'm working on disabling autoflush for some of our codebase (mostly to cut 
> down on queries on a high QPS path), but before doing that I want to write 
> a utility to detect when we read data that was flushed via autoflush to cut 
> down on any potential bugs.
>
> What I'd like to do is this (while autoflush is still enabled):
>
> table_one = TableOne(name='test')
> session.add(table_one) # Track this object as pending a flush via the 
> before_* listeners, this is working as expected.
>
> table_two_instances = session.query(TableTwo).all() # All good, doesn't do 
> anything with the table_one instance created earlier
>
> table_one_instances = session.query(TableOne).all() # I would like to log 
> a warning here as the results of this query depend on a flush happening. 
> What I'm hoping to do is detect that one of the rows coming back is the 
> same object that was flagged earlier, but I can't see to find the correct 
> event to use.
>
>
> you probably want to also use refresh_flush also, which will be invoked 
> for column defaults that are populated on the object
>
>
> https://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/20/orm/events.html#sqlalchemy.orm.InstanceEvents.refresh_flush
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> Is this possible? I can't seem to find the appropriate event that would 
> trigger when the results from the .all() query get merged back in with the 
> existing objects in the session.
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>
> that's the refresh event
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