Hello Gaetan,

Good to hear from you. It's a pity that you don't do any more
database work, we would all benefit from it ;)

About the copyright/thanks, those will be added should I release
the code of course.  It was my original intention to simply write
a compatibility layer for Elixir code to Declarative, but when diving
into it I saw the added value Elixir still provides on top of Declarative,
and then started to copy/paste parts and unit tests, and it evolved
to a modified copy.

The original documentation would indeed only need some changes.
I've removed things that were marked as deprecated and changed
to setup steps a little bit (but those were not documented).

Regards,

Erik

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Gaëtan de Menten <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> As part of the Camelot project http://www.python-camelot.com/,
>> and to migrate our existing applications from Elixir to Declarative,
>> I've reworked Elixir to be a layer on top of Declarative.  Most
>> of the existing Elixir unit tests pass with the new code.
>
> Ah! You've done what I dreamed to do but never found the
> time/motivation to do it (since I don't use Elixir or any database
> stuff for work, Elixir now competes with many other activities for my
> free time). My ultimate goal was in fact to clean it up enough to
> propose it for inclusion into SQLAlchemy.
>
>> Elixir is still very useful in that way because it's much easier to
>> define relationships with Elixir than with pure Declarative.  Also,
>> it's a good basis to implement custom usage patterns. (which
>> was the original purpose of Elixir)
>
> Indeed.
>
>> This code is now part of the Camelot codebase, but it could be
>> useful for non gui projects as well.
>>
>> So if somebody is prepared to take this code and release it
>> as Elixir 0.8 and do the project maintenance (packages,
>> documentation, etc), I'm willing to cooperate and split this code
>> out of Camelot.
>
> Packages is no big deal. Documentation can be but most of the current
> Elixir documentation should apply. I can't commit any time to Elixir
> these days for various reasons but I could have some in the future.
> I'll come back to you if that is ever the case. I had also a few
> features in my local copy waiting for cleanup and commit but well...
> no time.
>
>> If nobody steps in, the code will just remain where it is now.
>
> That's a bit sad but perfectly understandable.
>
>> Any thoughts or ideas ?
>
> Just a small deception: I found no trace of any copyright or even
> "thanks" to the original Elixir developers on your code/modified
> version of Elixir.
>
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