Hey Erik,

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah that sounds cool.  I'm going to have my local copy point to both
the bitbucket and github repos (I'll push/pull to/from both).

For getting elixir 'updated' with the camelot code, is it mostly the
stuff in the 'orm' directory that I want to be looking at?

cheers

Jarrett Chisholm
Prylynx Corporation
IT should be this simple

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On 02/10/12 01:18 AM, Erik Janssens wrote:
> Hello Jarrett,
> 
> Camelot as a whole project is GPL.
> 
> However the orm module as it is now in gitorious (not yet released), should
> not be GPL.
> 
> I originally started with writing some GPL code to mimic Elixir behavior, and
> later on copied parts of the original BSD code of elixir into them.
> 
> The code now more looks like the original Elixir code with some additions of
> mine.  I have no issues with releasing those additions as BSD of course.
> 
> So if you want to go ahead with this, simply let me know, and we'll sort it
> out.
> 
> Erik
> 
> PS : may I suggest bitbucket for cooperation ?  I've used it in some recent
> projects and am happy with it.  Especially the posibility to work with 
> subrepos
> is handy for integration purposes.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Jarrett Chisholm
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I'm sifting through some of the orm code for Camelot (with the intention of
>> maybe merging some of it into Elixir).  However, I've stopped due to the
>> copyright - it's GPL, not MIT.  I'm not entirely sure about how licenses
>> work and such, but is this kosher?  i.e. with the 2 licenses, is it ok to
>> copy your changes from Camelot into the elixir core?
>>
>> For anyone interested, I put a copy of the elixir source onto github (got
>> the latest version from SVN a couple months ago):
>> https://github.com/jarrettchisholm/elixir
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jarrett Chisholm
>> Prylynx Corporation
>> IT should be this simple
>>
>> [email protected]
>> www.prylynx.com
>> T: (519) 895-0600
>>
>> On 12/09/12 04:48 AM, Erik Janssens wrote:
>>
>> Hello Gaetan,
>>
>> Good to hear from you. It's a pity that you don't do any more
>> database work, we would all benefit from it ;)
>>
>> About the copyright/thanks, those will be added should I release
>> the code of course.  It was my original intention to simply write
>> a compatibility layer for Elixir code to Declarative, but when diving
>> into it I saw the added value Elixir still provides on top of Declarative,
>> and then started to copy/paste parts and unit tests, and it evolved
>> to a modified copy.
>>
>> The original documentation would indeed only need some changes.
>> I've removed things that were marked as deprecated and changed
>> to setup steps a little bit (but those were not documented).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Gaėtan de Menten <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As part of the Camelot project http://www.python-camelot.com/,
>> and to migrate our existing applications from Elixir to Declarative,
>> I've reworked Elixir to be a layer on top of Declarative.  Most
>> of the existing Elixir unit tests pass with the new code.
>>
>> Ah! You've done what I dreamed to do but never found the
>> time/motivation to do it (since I don't use Elixir or any database
>> stuff for work, Elixir now competes with many other activities for my
>> free time). My ultimate goal was in fact to clean it up enough to
>> propose it for inclusion into SQLAlchemy.
>>
>> Elixir is still very useful in that way because it's much easier to
>> define relationships with Elixir than with pure Declarative.  Also,
>> it's a good basis to implement custom usage patterns. (which
>> was the original purpose of Elixir)
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>> This code is now part of the Camelot codebase, but it could be
>> useful for non gui projects as well.
>>
>> So if somebody is prepared to take this code and release it
>> as Elixir 0.8 and do the project maintenance (packages,
>> documentation, etc), I'm willing to cooperate and split this code
>> out of Camelot.
>>
>> Packages is no big deal. Documentation can be but most of the current
>> Elixir documentation should apply. I can't commit any time to Elixir
>> these days for various reasons but I could have some in the future.
>> I'll come back to you if that is ever the case. I had also a few
>> features in my local copy waiting for cleanup and commit but well...
>> no time.
>>
>> If nobody steps in, the code will just remain where it is now.
>>
>> That's a bit sad but perfectly understandable.
>>
>> Any thoughts or ideas ?
>>
>> Just a small deception: I found no trace of any copyright or even
>> "thanks" to the original Elixir developers on your code/modified
>> version of Elixir.
>>
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