Hi Jim,

The things you wrote about the Midwest boiler worried me as well, ie: no
saftey valve and brass flue pipe.  In my attempt to fix these things I
noticed areas in which I thought improvements could be made, now mind you
this is my first venture into steam.  Identifing these inadequacys after
purchasing this kit left me with two choices: try to make useable the
original bodged up design or scrap it.  Since I enjoy the process of
discovery during research I chose the former, it is a learning experience
for me and one I rather enjoy!

The information gained from discussions such as this one go a long way in
helping people (such as myself being new to this hobby) understand the
safety and engineering issues that go into a live steam loco, and for this I
am grateful :-)  A BIG Thanks to all who have contributed !!!!!!!

Kindest Regards,
PeteH

>
> That Midwest boiler worries me in that the ones I've seen have no safety
> valve - they rely on the plastic steam pipe popping off the stub it fits
> onto, if the pressure gets too high.  That sounds possible, but sure as
> eggs someone will wire or clamp it on, or replace the plastic with brass
or
> copper soldered on.  I know of at least one accident in the USA where a
> spectator child was burnt when the steam pipe popped of the engine end in
a
> model steam boat.  The boiler was over filled, and the free end of the
pipe
> was whipping around spraying boiling water and steam all over.
>
> The issue of the thickness of the flue pipe wall I think is probably a red
> herring - the conductivity across a thick wall will be reduced (VERY
> slightly!), but as heat transfer is much more limited at the metal/water
> and flue gas/metal interface, the effect of metal conductivity will be
> negligible.
>
> The real problem iwth the Midwest and very many other small vertical
> boilers is one of totally inadequate heating surface, combined with
> ineffective draft and gas flow arrangements.  A Sterno fuel system
wouldn't
> help either.    The proposed three wick alcohol (Methylated Spirit UK)
> burner, would help considerably.  I'd be inclined to put several more
flues
> in the thing and use any other way of improving both heating surface and
> draft.  If this works and you are considering this stage of modifications,
> then I start to wonder why persist with the original boiler?  It might be
> easier to build a right one from scratch in the first place rather than
> bodge up the original.
>
> Jim Gregg.
>
 

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