Guys, could you please be more specific on what's wrong with XEP-33 because I don't really understand your concerns.
I don't think that it will be better to use my own protocol to put the subscribers' JIDs into the event, right? So what are the options? Thanks. On 06/18/2014 04:21 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Lance Stout <lancest...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:48 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor <edi...@xmpp.org> wrote: >> >>> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. >>> >>> Title: Recipient Server Side Notifications Filtering >>> >>> Abstract: This specification defines a modern efficient way to deliver >>> PubSub notifications. >>> >>> URL: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rsf.html >>> >>> The XMPP Council will decide in the next two weeks whether to accept this >>> proposal as an official XEP. >>> >> >> >> I'm a -1 based on the reasons Fippo explained concerning XEP-0033 use. >> >> >> However, the event filtering by the receiver's server via caps part of this >> proposal is useful and could stand on its own without the XEP-0033 parts. >> >> That enters into SIFT-like territory, but maybe that's a direction we need >> to experiment in so that we can actually have things that implement SIFT >> features. > > This is one I'd really like to thrash out at a summit, because I think > it's slightly more involved than is immediately obvious. > > The -33 use makes me uncomfortable, because I'm not convinced yet that > -33 actually buys us much here. I'd rather like to see figures here to > convince me. > > The recipient-side filtering seems OKish, but could lead to situations > where the publishing servers blindly send out to all possible > recipient JIDs and let the recipients deal with whether to send to the > clients or not - clearly not OK. > > It seems that this is potentially trying to answer part of a larger > 'how do I manage my pubsub subscriptions?' question, as there are > other things you want to do with your subscriptions. I think the > buddycloud folks have looked at some of this stuff with their inbox > services. I don't know if cross-polination there makes sense? > > /K > -- With best regards, Sergey Dobrov, XMPP Developer and JRuDevels.org founder.
