Please reply to these newbie questions;
1) References are made to versions of STORM LINUX 2000,i.e., rain, hail,
etc.
What version was released with the Maximum Linux magazines' distro of STORM
?
2) I ordered the STORM Linux users manual, but was disappoined on its
contents i.e.,
it did not seem to address the proper shutdown procedure, i.e., using
logout. The correct method seems to be a combination of 'logout' from the
wm, as well as, using SU to get access to root and executing a 'shutdown -h
now' command. This appears consistent with an O/S that is used as a server.
Also many apps are supplied, but not adequately addressed in the book, e.g.,
the Perl script capabilities and how one gets GIMP installed/running. I
have written a Perl script sucessfully, but the GIMP area appears to require
a compile. A pre-requiste for GIMP is the Gimp Tool kit(GTk). Is that
included in this Distro?
3) Since Perl scripts are very powerful for system access and control, why
are Perl scripts not distributed/indexed somewhere which simplify
installations and upgrades of existing disto software on a CD disc?
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re: KDE numlock (D & A Spicer)
2. Re: Re: Network card lockup (Carl B. Constantine)
3. Re: apt-get me a hail upgrade? (Carl B. Constantine)
4. Re: Network card lockup (Gary)
5. sound (Mircea Luca)
6. Netscape Bookmarks (Shel Johnson)
7. Re: Netscape Bookmarks (Oliver Elphick)
8. Re: Re: Netscape Bookmarks (Shel Johnson)
9. Re: Re: Netscape Bookmarks (Shel Johnson)
10. Re: apt-get me a hail upgrade? (TODD WITTER)
11. Re: Re: Netscape Bookmarks (Charles Lewis)
12. Re: apt-get me a hail upgrade? (Carl B. Constantine)
13. Re: internet browsing (TODD WITTER)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 13:01:08 -0400
From: D & A Spicer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLU] Re: KDE numlock
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Numlockx was exactly what I needed, thanks Bob. For anyone wanting to
do the same thing, I found numlockx here:
http://www.debian.org/~adric/numlockx/
Install it with 'dpkg -i numlockx....blah,blah'
Then put the command 'numlockx on' in your x start-up. I just put in
the autostart folder in KDE.
Hope this helps.
Thanks again,
Dean
John Batistic wrote:
>
> > > Has anybody ever figured out how to turn the numlock on by default? I
> > > already have it defaulting in the BIOS to on, but that doesn't seem to
> > > be enough.
> > >
> > > Ideas?
> >
> > Try numlockx. Doesn't help on the console, but works great for X. For
KDE
> > put it in the startup folder. For Gnome add it to the Session Startup
> > section of gnomecc.
> > Do You Yahoo!?
>
> I just tried to do that.
> I looked for a KDE Startup script in KDE control centre and all the KDE
> directories I could find - with no success.
>
> Where does one find a KDE startup script
>
> ??
> John Batistic.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 12:29:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [SLU] Re: Network card lockup
From: "Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/2/2000 22:24, John Batistic at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Dmesg reports the card correctly and it passes the boot
>>> diagnost. The NIC is allocated IRQ 11, which I think is the
>>> same IRQ as my non-working sound.
>>>
>>> As soon as I unplug the NIC, everything is back to normal.
>>
>
> I have discovered that the lockup occurred because I had not set up the
NIC.
> Using SAS, I used 192.168.x.x for IP and Gateway.
> Then, I found that I could dial into my ISP, but couldn't see anybody
because
> I
> lost access to my DNS.
Yes of course.
> If I use /sbin/route del default, I delete the last line in the report
> generated
> by
> /bin/netstat -nr, and then my DNS works until I log out and back in again,
> at which time that line is back.
> My feeling is that the problem might be IRQ based and involving my
> non-working integral sound.
This is because your ISP probably has a DNS entry of its own it's trying to
enforce.
>
>> have you tried changing the IRQ of the NIC to 10 or 5? what about a
>> different ethernet card?
>
> How do I change the IRQ?
Usually a driver disk for the card. It should have a utility on it to change
the IRQ. but I don't think your problem is IRQ related.
> I used SAS. the system will be one of two on a home network, providing
> internet access for both machines.
Now that I know your setup here's what I suggest.
Grab a 486 and run a firewall service on it like Edge Fireplug
(edge.fireplug.net) or some other system. Use it as your gateway. Have the
FIREWALL dial your ISP to provide net access for your internal network. Then
your internal DNS should be fine. Though, in reality you don't need a DNS
for your internal machines, just entries in your /etc/hosts file work fine.
Alternatively, you might try getting DSL or cable (if you can get either in
your area), hook the modem up to your hub and do it that way.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 12:34:17 -0700
Subject: Re: [SLU] apt-get me a hail upgrade?
From: "Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On 8/31/2000 07:36, TODD WITTER at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hey gang!
> Yesterday I was told I could probably use apt-get update and apt-
> get upgrade to move up from 'rain' to 'hail' adding my cdrom to
> sources.list.
It doesn't have to be the CD ROM, just change the ftp source to point to
HAIL instead of rain. Usually, just leave it at STABLE and all will work
out. But you can add a CD ROM source, that's how I did it during initial
beta testing.
then you run:
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
pay careful attention to the messages and the update should go smoothly.
HOWEVER: word of caution. I had problems getting the new Storm Package
Manager to work under a user account (even after using the gtksu util) and
SAS doesn't work for me at all.
I mentioned this during the beta testing but have not yet received a message
on how to fix it so that SAS works again. YMMV however.
to Stormix: Can you PLEASE fix that bug. I want to use SPM and SAS even
though I used apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to hail. I should NOT have to
reinstall just to gain access to those tools. Please let me know what the
fix is and if you need more info. I reported this bug several times during
the beta test and never received a reply.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [SLU] Re: Network card lockup
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Carl B. Constantine wrote:
> your internal DNS should be fine. Though, in reality you don't need a DNS
> for your internal machines, just entries in your /etc/hosts file work
fine.
The only practical reason for setting up DNS for private IP space is if
you have a huge internal network in which maintaining /etc/hosts files
would become tiresome. Your average SOHO user probably doesn't have more
than a dozen machines to worry about.
-Gary
[ ] Check here to always trust content from Gary
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 14:03:14 -0700
From: Mircea Luca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: Storm Linux User
To: SLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [SLU] sound
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I have one of those soundcards that don't use /dev/dsp.
ls mod is listing soundcore and esssolo1.
sound works for xmms and all gnome/kde apps and au files are playing
just fine IF I highlight them in mc and press enter.Now I installed
ICQjava
from Mirabilis and I hear some distorted noise when is trying to
play a sound.
Any ideas of how I can make it work ?
--
The best way to escape from a problem is to solve it.
Alan Saporta
My waste of cyberspace=
http://deepblue.dyndns.org :-)
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 02:00:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NTLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [SLU] Netscape Bookmarks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone.. Is there an easy way to import your bookmarks from win9x to
linux??... Thanks!!
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To: Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:06:49 +0100
From: "Oliver Elphick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [SLU] Re: Netscape Bookmarks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shel Johnson wrote:
>Hi everyone.. Is there an easy way to import your bookmarks from win9x to
>linux??... Thanks!!
Netscape bookmarks are in a file called ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html. If you
can export your bookmarks from IE, you should be able to edit the
resulting file into the right format.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [SLU] Re: Netscape Bookmarks
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: NTLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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Ok, here's a dumb one.. How do you find a file directory that starts with
a dot?.. Are they hidden?.. I know the location is: /home/shel/.netscape ,
but when I look for it, all I see is: /home/shel .. Does that make any
sense??...
Shel Johnson wrote:
>Hi everyone.. Is there an easy way to import your bookmarks from win9x
to
>linux??... Thanks!!
Netscape bookmarks are in a file called ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html. If
you
can export your bookmarks from IE, you should be able to edit the
resulting file into the right format.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [SLU] Re: Netscape Bookmarks
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: NTLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, here's a dumb one.. How do you find a file directory that starts with
a dot?.. Are they hidden?.. I know the location is: /home/shel/.netscape ,
but when I look for it, all I see is: /home/shel .. Does that make any
sense??...
Shel Johnson wrote:
>Hi everyone.. Is there an easy way to import your bookmarks from win9x
to
>linux??... Thanks!!
Netscape bookmarks are in a file called ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html. If
you
can export your bookmarks from IE, you should be able to edit the
resulting file into the right format.
--
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Message: 10
From: "TODD WITTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:34:45 CST
Subject: Re: [SLU] apt-get me a hail upgrade?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As a matter of fact, I did succeed in adding the cdrom as a source.
And I , too, lost SPM entirely and SAS is...well, I'm not quite sure
what's become of it. :) But actually, the upgrade somewhat well
except that certain packages would not, no matter what, install,
namely libwrap0. It also would not install ddd, kbd and moonlight.
Also, even though helix gnome is supposed to be installed, I see
almost no evidence of it. Isn't sawfish the default wm for helix?
And where's the helix-update? It all seems a bit screwy
sometimes since I've upgraded.
Anywho, thanks for getting back to me and I'm happy to hear I'm
not the only one who lost SPM. Be well!
Todd
On 4 Sep 00, at 12:34, Carl B. Constantine wrote:
> On 8/31/2000 07:36, TODD WITTER at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hey gang!
> > Yesterday I was told I could probably use apt-get update and apt-
> > get upgrade to move up from 'rain' to 'hail' adding my cdrom to
> > sources.list.
>
> It doesn't have to be the CD ROM, just change the ftp source to point to
> HAIL instead of rain. Usually, just leave it at STABLE and all will work
> out. But you can add a CD ROM source, that's how I did it during initial
> beta testing.
>
> then you run:
>
> apt-get update
> apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> pay careful attention to the messages and the update should go smoothly.
>
> HOWEVER: word of caution. I had problems getting the new Storm Package
> Manager to work under a user account (even after using the gtksu util) and
> SAS doesn't work for me at all.
>
> I mentioned this during the beta testing but have not yet received a
message
> on how to fix it so that SAS works again. YMMV however.
>
> to Stormix: Can you PLEASE fix that bug. I want to use SPM and SAS even
> though I used apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade to hail. I should NOT have
to
> reinstall just to gain access to those tools. Please let me know what the
> fix is and if you need more info. I reported this bug several times during
> the beta test and never received a reply.
>
>
> --
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Message: 11
From: "Charles Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [SLU] Re: Netscape Bookmarks
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:47:17 -0500
charset="iso-8859-1"
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ls -a
Charles Lewis
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> Ok, here's a dumb one.. How do you find a file directory that starts with
> a dot?.. Are they hidden?.. I know the location is: /home/shel/.netscape ,
> but when I look for it, all I see is: /home/shel .. Does that make any
> sense??...
>
> Shel Johnson wrote:
> >Hi everyone.. Is there an easy way to import your bookmarks from win9x
> to
> >linux??... Thanks!!
>
> Netscape bookmarks are in a file called ~/.netscape/bookmarks.html. If
> you
> can export your bookmarks from IE, you should be able to edit the
> resulting file into the right format.
>
> --
> Oliver Elphick
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 06:49:42 -0700
Subject: Re: [SLU] apt-get me a hail upgrade?
From: "Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: SLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/5/2000 07:34, TODD WITTER at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As a matter of fact, I did succeed in adding the cdrom as a source.
> And I , too, lost SPM entirely and SAS is...well, I'm not quite sure
> what's become of it. :)
for some reason the apt-get dist-upgrade does not remove the old SAS and
associated components/libraries. Do it manually for now. I also installed
the new SAS manually afterward apt-get install task-apt (I think).
> But actually, the upgrade somewhat well
> except that certain packages would not, no matter what, install,
> namely libwrap0.
don't remember that one.
> It also would not install ddd, kbd and moonlight.
Yes, for whatever reason, these three packages were kept back. haven't got a
clue why. I haven't checked the versions so maybe they didn't need
upgrading.
> Also, even though helix gnome is supposed to be installed, I see
> almost no evidence of it. Isn't sawfish the default wm for helix?
Try removing all the .gnome* directories in your home directory and then run
X again. I had problems getting sawfish to come up default as well, but it
may be easier for you.
> And where's the helix-update? It all seems a bit screwy
> sometimes since I've upgraded.
again, kill all .gnome directories and you'll see it.
> Anywho, thanks for getting back to me and I'm happy to hear I'm
> not the only one who lost SPM. Be well!
nope. It's reported just no answer yet ;-(
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Message: 13
From: "TODD WITTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "GeorgeR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:52:06 CST
Subject: Re: [SLU] internet browsing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This always worked for me, especially with Storm rain.
Do the following 3 steps in a terminal.
I gave the pppd file rx permission for users:
chmod a+rx /usr/sbin/pppd
I made /usr/sbin/pppd setuid for root
chmod +s /usr/sbin/pppd
and made the port accessible for users
chmod a+rw /dev/ttyS1
I also added myself to the dialout group and the dip group.
adduser joebloe dialout
adduser joebloe dip
I also edited the /etc/ppp/options file to read "# auth" on line
37 or thereabouts and further down, where it says "lock", I
changed it to "# lock".
That got my regular user online.
Check back if you continue to have problems.
Todd
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PS If you look back in the SLU list archives, you will find this exact
answer to this exact question. Don't forget to look there first for
other problems you might come across in the future. :) Be well!
On 3 Sep 00, at 13:08, GeorgeR wrote:
> I have this problem: although connecting and browsing works as root, as
> user it doesn't: cannot connect to the remote host. Where should I look
> to fix this problem? I'm running Stormix rain.
>
> ---
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