Ben, You have made it clear that you needed to get away from the code back in June after having made a flurry of commits. Everyone understands and appreciates what you have done for Stripes as you have single handedly maintained Stripes for quite some time (I assume since its beginnings with Tim) and have been an incredible driving force IMO.
But the time of a single developer cobbling together code OR merely accepting patches that are ready and tested from the community - but not having the time to integrate them - must be over. At some point in time we need to stand aside to see a project grow otherwise we will - and not to be dramatic - smother it and indeed it will die... . There are developers like Evan, Nicolai, myself (down the road) and others in the wings (whose names I don't have readily with me but have voiced themselves already) that are "ready" to get involved **today** and / or contribute their extensions that they have built for their real world projects... and yet the lack of response to requests on how to get involved is quite unsettling to say the least. Another area... 1.5.3 was released on December 16, 2009 yet a full 9 months later it still does not appear in Maven Central. One suggested solution was to setup a Sonatype repo for Stripes so that it automatically syncs to Maven Central. In STS-738 back in May of this year you said "In case you missed my note on the mailing list the other day, I'm working on getting this going through Sonatype. I'll resolve this issue when it's done." The fact that it isn't setup is not my biggest concern and is not a problem as in the end you volunteer your efforts / time. However since then others including Samuel Santos and Nathan Maves have offered to help setup a Sonatype repo for Stripes - which they both have stated they have experience doing - yet once again no reply to their offers to help. Once again this is unsettling... . This thread is by no means meant to be critical of your contributions... as they most likely overshadow everyone else's in this community for their extent and dedication. This is meant more as a wake up call to all those that hold the keys to Stripes. I assume that includes yourself, Freddy and Aaron but don't know for sure... . In my mind 3 things need to happen for Stripes to prosper: 1) Getting Stripes automatically sync'd up through Sonatype will deflect the "perception" that the project is stale i.e. 9 months since its last release is no big deal... not having its latest release "out there" where it can be *effortlessly consumed* *IS* IMO. 2) Some process needs to be setup to allow others to get into the ground floor as contributors. This OSS at its best. There are numerous talented people on this list alone that not letting go of the keys WILL kill Stripes. Period. As I personally have not led any OSS projects I am not sure what the best procedure / process to follow is nor do I know where to start but I'm sure others can chime in on how to properly initiate this. If this was truly difficult then OSS would not exist. This is *CRITICAL*. 3) All the other good initiatives that have been started need to continue like setting up a new web site, a better place for forums (mailing lists are wonderful but people search the web more often than mailing lists for quick answers), deciding on how to partition extensions, stacks, etc... (of course there is debate here), etc... But if 1) and 2) don't happen then yes not to sound dramatic Stripes will surely die... not b/c it isn't a great product... but b/c people like myself and others in the community will feel that they are beating a dead horse in trying to get involved... and will simply give up and look elsewhere. If you alienate those that the "early adopters" / "sneezers" then 3) won't matter at all. Ben, Freddy and / or Aaron... its time to step up to the plate... to if anything hand over the keys and take on a reviewer / advisor role in the future of this wonderful framework. Regards, --Nikolaos Evan Leonard wrote: > Nicolai, > > Absolutely. This is a must. I am starting to use Stripes for a project and > want to participate in the community. However, its not clear how to do so! > > Is it clear in the community how decisions are made about these things? Are > there certain "core" developers with some level of authority? Forgive me as > I'm just coming up to speed. > > Evan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Stripes-users mailing list Stripes-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/stripes-users
