For what it's worth to this discussion, people that say these "off-the-cuff" statements truly have never used or just don’t understood the concept of a Framework.
If you don't take advantage of a framework, Struts or any other, you only end up repeating over and over the same classes, methods, etc... If you can get people, managers, executives to understand the value add proposition of using a framework like Struts, it has been my experience that your chance of bringing it in house is much easier. Once they understand “Oh you mean, much of the mundane tasks are already done”, then they are all about how good it is. Ignorance really isn’t bliss :) Chuck > > My instructor at a servlet class deemed Struts as an overkill but > nevertheless recommended it's use. "Overkill" might not be the reason why > they do not like it, why not ask them for more compelling (and objective) > reasons for not using it? If you have proven it's worth in delivering a > successful project, then the burden should be on them (the regional office) > to prove otherwise. OR you should have involved them in your research prior > to using Struts or during the time you were developing your app. > > > > > > > "Olikkadavath, Bobby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/30/2002 > 09:54:37 AM > > Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: RE:Struts is Overkill? > > > FWD : what is an "unfired framework"? > > ----Original Message----- > From: Hayley, Alex > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:47 PM > To: Olikkadavath, Bobby > Subject: RE: Struts is Overkill? > > > what is an "unfired framework"? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Olikkadavath, Bobby > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:33 AM > To: Hayley, Alex > Subject: FW: Struts is Overkill? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Marrotte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Struts is Overkill? > > > I just completed a good-sized web application (a statewide Child Support > Payment System) using Struts. There's was a fair learning curve which put > me over the deadline. But, after that my development speed increased > significantly with the help of the Struts framework. My local manager has > even bought into Struts after seeing my success and researching it himself. > However, our regional office is not very close with us and deemed Struts an > "Overkill" for shopping-cart/e-commerce type applications. I intuitively > know that Struts will save me time, introduces a unfired framework, etc. > But, I was hoping that you guys could help me come up with an even more > convincing argument for when the time comes. > > Thanks in advance, > > --Michael Marrotte > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > Please Note: > The information in this E-mail message, and any files transmitted > with it, is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is > intended only for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you > are the intended recipient, be aware that your use of any confidential > or personal information may be restricted by state and federal > privacy laws. If you, the reader of this message, are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you should not > further disseminate, distribute, or forward this E-mail message. > If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender > and delete the material from any computer. Thank you. > ********************************************************************** > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
