I cant get more than 15 bugs to be displayed and half of those are enhancements... On the summary page I can see a bunch, but under a query forget it!
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin.Bedell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AM To: struts-user Subject: Re: keeping the old debate open... > just a question about how open-source projects are managed at > apache's : how do you know you run out of bugs to fix ? what's the way the > projects are tested ? thanks, since my boss wonders about open-source and > fears it a bit... One of fundamental advantages of Open Source is that finding bugs generally occurs much faster. Plus, as a user you have direct access to the bug tracking system (bugzilla, in this case at http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/ ). There are currently 90 open bugs for Struts. How do I know this? I just looked - it's on-line for everyone to see. If you find a bug, you can add one yourself and someone with appropriate rights in bugzilla will have to address it before it dissapears - it's an extremely 'open book' approach that no vendor would dream of giving you. I've worked for software companies and we would NEVER have opened our bug lists - our competitors would have printed them out and used them against us in sales calls. Eric Raymond, in his essay "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" says that ``Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow.'' And, "at least, that they turn shallow pretty quickly when exposed to a thousand eager co-developers pounding on every single new release". This is why Linux is more stable than NT and Apache dominates the web server market - it's not because it's free, it's because it's BETTER and FREER of BUGS. If I were your boss, I'd worry more about the quality of commercial software than I would about open source. If your manager is concerned about using Open Source becuase of software quality, then get them a copy of Eric's book: The Cathedral and the Bazaar - it's a very short and easy read. The Cathedral and the Bazaar is available at either: on-line free: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/ - or - from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596001088/qid=1026397260/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-4271210-7048648 The discussion about Open Source projects and debugging is at: http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/x147.html Best of luck, Kevin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
