Sure, I try to help where I can -----Original Message----- From: jholmes612 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:41 PM To: struts-user Subject: RE: keeping the old debate open...
That's correct. Enhancements are just that. They will not prevent beta 2 from going out. Once those 23 bugs are knocked it's likely that beta 2 will be released. If you have time jump in and fix a bug or two and submit patches and we'll be that much closer to beta 2 being ready. -james [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Okay, if I do that and further refine it by: > > All SEVERITY except enhancement > Versions 1.1b1, Nightly Build, Unknown > > I am down to 23 bugs. Is this an accurate > representation of what has to > happen before the next beta release? Are > Enhancements planned to be > done before the next beta? > > Saying there are 23 known bugs to be fixed sounds > much better for the > project than including all the enhancement requests > too! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: craigmcc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:09 PM > To: struts-user > Subject: RE: keeping the old debate open... > > > > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:55:14 -0400 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: keeping the old debate open... > > > > > > I cant get more than 15 bugs to be displayed and > half of those are > > enhancements... > > On the summary page I can see a bunch, but under a > query forget it! > > > > As you might imagine :-), I have a saved query on > Bugzilla to select > Struts bug reports. As of a few seconds ago, it > finds 92 of them (many > enhancements, many bugs against 1.0.x, and a few > outstanding against > 1.1). > > The search criteria I use: > - Status = UNCONFIRMED, NEW, ASSIGNED, REOPENED > - Program = Struts > > For reference, our bug tracking system (for all > Jakarta and > Xml.apache.org > projects) is at: > > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/ > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin.Bedell > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:18 AM > > To: struts-user > > Subject: Re: keeping the old debate open... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a question about how open-source projects > are managed at > > > apache's : how do you know you run out of bugs > to fix ? what's the > way > > the > > > projects are tested ? thanks, since my boss > wonders about > open-source > > and > > > fears it a bit... > > > > One of fundamental advantages of Open Source is > that finding bugs > > generally > > occurs much faster. Plus, as a user you have > direct access to the bug > > tracking system (bugzilla, in this case at > > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/ ). > > > > There are currently 90 open bugs for Struts. How > do I know this? I > just > > looked - it's on-line for everyone to see. If you > find a bug, you can > > add > > one yourself and someone with appropriate rights > in bugzilla will have > > to > > address it before it dissapears - it's an > extremely 'open book' > approach > > that no vendor would dream of giving you. I've > worked for software > > companies and we would NEVER have opened our bug > lists - our > competitors > > would have printed them out and used them against > us in sales calls. > > > > Eric Raymond, in his essay "The Cathedral and the > Bazaar" says that > > ``Given > > enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow.'' And, "at > least, that they > turn > > shallow pretty quickly when exposed to a thousand > eager co-developers > > pounding on every single new release". > > > > This is why Linux is more stable than NT and > Apache dominates the web > > server market - it's not because it's free, it's > because it's BETTER > and > > FREER of BUGS. If I were your boss, I'd worry more > about the quality > of > > commercial software than I would about open > source. > > > > > > If your manager is concerned about using Open > Source becuase of > software > > quality, then get them a copy of Eric's book: The > Cathedral and the > > Bazaar > > - it's a very short and easy read. > > > > > > The Cathedral and the Bazaar is available at > either: > > > > on-line free: > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/ > > > > - or - > > > > from Amazon: > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0596001088/qid=1026397260/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-4271210-7048648 > > > > > > The discussion about Open Source projects and > debugging is at: > > > > > > > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/x147.html > > > > > > Best of luck, > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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