The pre-release Chapter 1 of Chuck's book has a section on this... about 15 pages down or so and explains the "syndrome" that your ex-colleague is demonstrating. ...Tell him that it's curable though :)
"Juan Alvarado (Struts List)" wrote: Hello folks: Recently I had a discussion with an ex-colleague of mine regarding struts. I explained to him that it's an awesome framework and that it has everything for developing web applications using MVC. His response was something to the effect of "I'm sure struts is great but we are very happy with our architecture here and that it has all the benefits of struts and that they are 100% J2EE compliant and sun pattern compliant and blah blah blah.... He also made it a point to point out that his architecture is just J2EE and no third party libraries. I tried telling him that struts was all J2EE also and that it was written in pure java. His response was that it was a third party package on top of J2EE. He then tried to tell me what patterns he uses for his architecture and those consisted of: Service to Work, with Servlet Front Strategy, Displatcher in Controller Strategy, and JSP View Strategy, Value Objects,and Data Access Objects. I tried to tell him that all that was nice and dandy, but with struts he could use all those patterns with struts and in the process save himself a ton of time in developing his application(s). Basically this was his response: I'm just against anything other than the base stuff. I don't like reallying on any pieces that are from other parties or that put layers on top of Java... to be honest, I'm just not interested. I'm sure that many of the people on there will have lots to say about why struts is great, but I already looked into it, along with all other options, and saw no benefits beyond adopting J2EE and Sun's core J2EE patterns. There isn't anything struts does that our architecture now doesn't do, and it doesn't do it any easier, so why would I bother? So my question is as follows... Isn't this person wrong in saying that struts puts layers on top of Java and that struts doesn't do anything easier than his sun based architecture?? If that was the case, why aren't we using his architecture/framework?? I mean as far as I know, sun doesn't have anything close to what struts is, and if truth be told, aren't they(Sun) using at least one of the struts creators for their own Java Server Faces framework. I would love to hear what the community's reaction to these comments are. Sorry for the long post, but I think this one was worth it. ********************************************** Juan Alvarado Internet Developer -- Manduca Management (786)552-0504 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL Instant Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better
