Re: AW: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

[Kenny Smith]

Hi s.frank,

I think your first paragraph and second make different points. I completely disagree that choice of IDE is just an aesthetic choice. Your second point about the Perforce-Integration is talking about specific functionality. If your project requires specific functionality, then the choices of IDEs are limited. However, people think differently. Take NetBeans and Eclipse. They do the same job, but they do it in VASTLY different ways. Why? Because different people have different ideas. One person will be far more productive using Eclipse and a different person will be more productive with NetBeans.

Seriously... who _cares_ if it's easier for an administrator to setup a new box. That is a one time event and completely gets lost in the amount of time a developer will spend using the machine. In addition, IDEs are pretty darn easy to install. My box at work came without one, I chose my favorite and installed that one.

It's a myth that using one IDE improves team performance.

Kenny Smith
JournalScape.com

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think there exist many and more fruitful ways to express your
individuality than using IDE A rather than that ide B.
If the IDE is not important, why not standardize one: Makes it easier for
administrators to setup new boxes, allows to pass the box to another
member of your team, allows to use the same plug-ins and so on: Just think
about Integration with version-Control: Cowboy-Coder A uses Eclipse which
has a bug with Perforce-Integration, Cowboy-Coder B insists on using
IntelliJ, which has no Perforce-Integration at all: And the Newbie-Coder
comes in and is totally confused as there exist three ways of setting up
your enviroment. No Standards at all are ok if you have a team-size of
one... --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Datum: 21.01.2003 16:20
Von: "James Childers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
An: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: RE: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

I second this. Different people work in different ways; standardizing an

IDE for every developer ignores this rather key fact of human nature. If
my company were to standardize on an IDE that some people don't like,
they're just going to be frustrated and bitter, decreasing productivity.

*shudder* Thank Baal they don't do that at my company. Everybody can use

whatever development tools they want, so long as the code compiles and
passes the unit tests.

I use Eclipse and Vim, primarily. If management tried to take away Vim I

would have to tell them to... well... You get the idea.

Speaking of which, I've been tinkering with IDEA lately, and it looks

quite promising. Tight, and as fast as Eclipse. Plus I like the fact that
I can do everything within it without using the keyboard. And it can do
regexp search and replaces, which is one of the main things keeping me
married to Vim right now.

-= J

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:16 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: [OT] Eclipse IDE - The Two Towers

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Daniel H. F. e Silva wrote:

My boss wants a standard environment to all developers. So,

order is order.

I think his concern about this task is to improve

productivity. So, what is more productive?

If he wants productivity then let the developers use the tools they are
familiar with.

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