I'm sure they were right on target -- remember the great laws of Brooks and
Lubarsky:

1. Thowing manpower at a late software project makes it later.
2. there's always one more bug.

And the hypothesis of equal time pressure:
Resources consumed will expand to the limits of resources available.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project


But how close were your estimates?  You didn't say how far below the 
estimate you usually ended up.

David



>From: "Jeff Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project
>Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:47:27 -0700
>
>What? You don't increment the units as well?
>
>If I am looking for a safe estimate and a developer tells me 2 weeks, I
>automatically plan for 4 months. In all my years of experience I have NEVER
>gone over estimate with this method and I have been only been over by more
>than 20% 3 times in about 80 projects.
>
>Sad but true.
>
>Jefficus
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:31 AM
>Subject: RE: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project
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>
> > Okay, now double your estimate and you have a starting figure.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:21 PM
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> > Subject: RE: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:18 AM
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> > >Subject: Re: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >Did you factor in the time for writing/maintaining tests?
> >
> > I'm hurt that you even felt you had to ask! ;-)
> >
> > Yes. As far as is possible, I have people write unit tests for code
>(before
> > if possible) and we are in the process of selecting further testing 
>tools
> > for good stuff like functional testing, load testing and performance
> > testing.
> >
> > Simon
> >
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