I'm sure they were right on target -- remember the great laws of Brooks and Lubarsky:
1. Thowing manpower at a late software project makes it later. 2. there's always one more bug. And the hypothesis of equal time pressure: Resources consumed will expand to the limits of resources available. -----Original Message----- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project But how close were your estimates? You didn't say how far below the estimate you usually ended up. David >From: "Jeff Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project >Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:47:27 -0700 > >What? You don't increment the units as well? > >If I am looking for a safe estimate and a developer tells me 2 weeks, I >automatically plan for 4 months. In all my years of experience I have NEVER >gone over estimate with this method and I have been only been over by more >than 20% 3 times in about 80 projects. > >Sad but true. > >Jefficus > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Galbreath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:31 AM >Subject: RE: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project > > > > Okay, now double your estimate and you have a starting figure. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:21 PM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: RE: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:18 AM > > >To: Struts Users Mailing List > > >Subject: Re: [OT] Estimating a Struts-based project > > > > <snip> > > > > >Did you factor in the time for writing/maintaining tests? > > > > I'm hurt that you even felt you had to ask! ;-) > > > > Yes. As far as is possible, I have people write unit tests for code >(before > > if possible) and we are in the process of selecting further testing >tools > > for good stuff like functional testing, load testing and performance > > testing. > > > > Simon > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com > > Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]