Everyone take a deep breath and think of bunny rabbits.
Cute little bunnies
()()
('.')
(")(")
Hmm.. I'm getting hungry now.
-Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:50 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: JSTL ot struts taglibs?
Another debate. Your debate was to make me feel like I was doing something
wrong by posting my opinion. There was no debate.
The tags do speak for themselves and if you think that $var which Java
allows but is NEVER used is acceptable syntax for a tag then that speaks
volumes as well.
Never said, "JSF will replace JSTL". I just said let's see what that
technology and others has in store in the near future. Java didn't have
every API and package when it first came out so, like I said, we will see
what JSF has to offer in the near future. I'm just hoping it is some
replacement for those step backwards tags.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:51 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: JSTL ot struts taglibs?
--- "Bailey, Shane C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't get me wrong, I think scriptlets are ugly and shouldn't be used
> but
> like I said JSTL is not da bomb and if already know Struts tags I
> wouldn't
> go rewriting my code to JSTL until I have seen what JSF and any new
> technology near by has in store.
JSF is not a replacement for JSTL. They complement each other.
>
> I'm just saying all the reasons listed do not necessarily mean a whole
> lot
> since scriptlets can fit nearly everything said about JSTL but yet
> everybody
> agrees not to use scriptlets. I am just giving another opinion.
The question had nothing to do with scriptlets. It was about using JSTL
or Struts tags. I'm not going to participate in another JSTL debate. The
tags speak for themselves.
David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bailey, Shane C. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 11:21 AM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: JSTL ot struts taglibs?
>
>
> Scriptlets are more powerful (you can do ANYTHING Java can do), faster,
> is a
> standard (it is the Java language you know) and if you are going to
> spend
> time learning a new language (${var} == "pooPoo") then you would be
> better
> off learning Java (assuming you don't already know it) cause then you
> could
> do scriptlets and middle tier coding and more whereas if you use your
> time
> learning JSTL all you will know is JSTL.
>
> Believe me, JSTL will be easy to replace if someone comes out with an
> alternative. I am a programmer but I understand the importance of
> having
> the tags be similar to HTML tags and not like tags containing
> scriptlets.
>
> If it makes you happy $var is a legal Java variable name so you could
> just
> write scriptlets with $var and no one would realize you weren't writing
> JSTL
>
>
> :)
>
> Why do you think Ant is so popular??? It got rid of all the $var UNIX
> script
> like crap and made it more like tags should be!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Bottom line is, yes, Struts tags aren't the best but JSTL is not much
> better
> and will probably be replaced with something not so ugly in the future.
>
>
> Just my .02 sense.
>
> I like it how some people don't get disturbed by questions about
> connecting
> to a database with JDBC to the Struts user list but get mad if you post
> a
> differing opinion about the crappy way some tags were written that
> interfaces with Struts code. What an ACE!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:28 AM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: JSTL ot struts taglibs?
>
> --- David Thielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi;
> >
> > For the logic and I18N taglibs - what do you recommend - using the
> > struts taglibs or the JSTL taglibs?
>
> Definitely JSTL. They're more powerful, easier to use, potentially
> faster, and a Java standard.
>
> David
>
> >
> > thanks - dave
>
>
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