Kito D. Mann wrote: <SNIP>
The main difference between the component and taglib approach is that in the component world, all of this functionality would be implemented by a component/renderer pair. The component itself would be a JavaBean, so it'd have methods, properties, and events, and integrate with tools. You could even have a JavaBeans customizer that would allow you to find and connect to the data source with a wizard interface. You could also develop different renderers, so perhaps one would output HTML and another might work for a WML device.<SNIP>
It's submarine, but it can fly.... AND it's a lawn mower too. This way every member of the committee gets their feature. We'll think of a use for it later. A grid that displays on my browser; and on my cell phone! This would run great.... in PowerPoint.
Where the C# tutorial!
(of course, vendors do not have to use it later, unlike people that develop OS. Yeah, make it like Swing, lets duplicate that success. I use Eclipse, those silly OS people don't use Swing "standard", they must not be as smart.) I used to use Vendor designed frameworks, and ran away from them to Struts.
Kito D. Mann wrote:
<SNIP>
> There's an example of a much less capable, but similar, component in JSF EA4.
> Kito D. Mann > Author, JSF in Action <SNIP>
Vic:... "less capable", and more complex, now that takes a committee to advise me.
Craig wrote:
<SNIP>
>some commenters fail to remember what "early access" means -- it's not done yet.
<SNIP>
So we can't critisize it? But you can market it? Positive reviews are OK? I have heard wait till next version from Sun. There are a lot of promisses made, like ASF version of JSF, and ....
Craig wrote (in another thread on EJB):
<SNIP>
Struts doesn't have a UI component model at all (the HTML tags do not count -- they are simply ways to render simple input fields -- which is why we have to work so hard at things like tree controls and grids), but shines in its overall framework characteristics.
<SNIP>
??
Vic: "HTML tags are a simple way to render input tags" ... simple as in simple is bad?
(Also I use a nice open source tag for tree that emits .js http://www.guydavis.ca/projects/oss/tags)
I agree with Matt on this issue.
Hopefully it's OK that I stay with http://displaytag.sf.net and Struts, and JSTL/HTML for Multi Row Updates/Validation. Until Flash Grid takes over, executing on a client's browser, and not on the server.
(See, I did not even bring up vendor licensing or Sun's poor finance ;-))
Go Java!
KISS,
.V
--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
