Interesting point about tech leads.. I agree wholeheartedly I specifically have agree with "enthusiasm for learning new technologies/methodologies" I would also add "Must ensure product works on all client platforms" You would be surprised how much software is shipped without any testing or consideration for the user's environment ~My 2 cents~ Martin Gainty ----- Original Message ----- From: "P K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Life, the Universe and Everything (was: RE: [OT] RE: Memory usage)
> so you reckon that hinting to my Manager, whom we both report to, about my frustrations isn't going to help much? > > Thanks for the suggestion about the small company though. Looking back, the most fun I had at work was working for a small company. > > Simons, Your suggestion # 4 is great nad #5 really interesting. Thanks. > > Andrew Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ive found the best way to avoid those kind of morons is to work at small > companies where any deadwood has nowhere to hide and is quickly pruned :-) > Our tech leads really know their stuff here. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2004 06:28 > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Life, the Universe and Everything (was: RE: [OT] RE: Memory > usage) > > > While the original flame war was less helpful, the question that has emerged > from it's ashes is a good one. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I > can offer some personal observations. Feel free to disagree. > > 1. You can do nothing about those who choose not to learn. I've tried > changing them and it doesn't work. I consider this a basic fact. > > 2. You have a great deal of control over your ability to learn. If you > aren't big time into learning, then I recommend catching some enthusiasm for > it. > > 3. There will be always be good and bad tech leads. I am a tech lead; I try > to be a good one. I can put a String to standard out or standard error! ;-) > > 4. I had the same frustrations that you have. I made the decision that the > best way to restore the balance of good in the universe, was to try to > become the kind of tech lead that I would have wanted when I was a > newbie/humble grunt. I teach a class on learning Java one lunchtime a week > and try to bestow a little wisdom and encouragement whenever I can. I am a > Java mentor here and I lead a study group of us that are seeking our Java > Certification. > > 5. No one reads documentation. This is a fact. Learn what is "drop dead > fired and escorted from the building" important and then try to > auto-generate it. :-) > > 6. Leadership is a rare commodity. There's a lot of management out there, > but precious little leadership. Again, deal with it. Become a leader and > just do what needs to be done. This is what I have tended to do. The ol' > saying about "it's easier to ask forgiveness than permission" is very true > (except I sometimes forget to ask for forgiveness! :-) > > 7. Black team? How 90's, Our team wears Hawaiian shirts! (Honest. :-) > > Simon > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: P K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:58 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Memory usage > > > > > >Sorry to continue on this topic. I've learnt a great deal of > >non struts stuff on this list and this only adds to it. > >I've been bothered (mostly in my mind) with questions about > >peoples capabilities and desires when it comes to work. Viru, > >this original poster of the question on Memory Usage clearly > >has a desire to learn, but what about people who don't? How do > >you deal with them? > >I currently work with a Tech Lead who wouldn't be able to > >output a String to standard out if asked to write a program. I > >don't care about her taking credit for the work that we do. > >She doesn't provide any leadership whatsoever to the project > >except produce paper that no one bothers to read. Have you > >guys come across situations like this? What have you done > >about it? Don't get me wrong - I am not prone to complaining > >nor do I think I am a member of the elite 'Black Team'. > >---------------------------------------- > >Quoting "Dhaliwal, Pritpal (HQP)" > : > >> +1 > >> > >> I agree with everyone who has responded. We should not > >clutter this very > >> friendly mailing list with things that don't belong here, > >that includes "not > >> so nice" responses. I haven't been on many, but this is by > >far my favorite > >> list, even though I am mainly a spectator. > >> > >> I lashed out because this question clearly didn't belong > >here. If the person > >> had followed anything in > >http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, > >> it must that they were polite. They certainly didn't do much > >investigation > >> outside on the internet. The little bit of unfriendliness, I > >dunno why it > >> came out. Unprofessional, it shouldn't have came out. > >> > >Even questions that don't belong here deserve to be treated > >with respect. That > >is the single most obvious characteristic of STRUTS-USER that > >is distinctive > >(even though it has lots of other good qualities). > >Unfortunately, you decided to unload on a poster in a manner > >that is decidedly > >out of the norm for STRUTS-USER. Your response is the kind of > >behavior that > >creates problems for the perception of open source projects as > >being "friendly" > >to users or not. If you think the topic is totally out of scope for > >STRUTS-USER, then you should either (a) answer the question > >anyway but point > >people to where they should really be asking; (b) *gently* > >encourage the user > >to explore the other resources that are available (the > >archives are full of > >examples of folks who have done this), or (c) shut your yap > >and press DELETE > >instead of SUBMIT on your replies :-). > >The culture of the STRUTS-USER list has always been > >*deliberately* different > >from the "you idiot, how could you be so stupid as to ask that > >question in that > >way" sort of attitude that far too many open source projects have. > >Fortunately, despite the fact that this is the > >most-subscribed-to user list at > >Jakarta (ten short of 3000 at the moment), the occurrences of > >rude behavior are > >so rare that they immediately attract notice for being out of > >character for > >what we're trying to achieve :-). I'd say that we've been > >doing a pretty good > >job maintaining a friendly, welcoming, and helpful community. > >I'd also like to > >keep it that way. > >Craig McClanahan > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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