On 2018-05-23 14:58, Davide DB wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 12:08 Willem Ferguson <willemfergu...@zoology.up.ac.za>
wrote:
If this is the case, then the problem should in principle be solvable
and it possibly means that the coding in the dive log is slightly
different from that of the standard Petrel and the Fischer Petrel 2. The
most knowledgeable person to approach is Jef Driesen but he would need
some specific information from your download. A first approach is to
inspect the .bin dumpfile generated for debug in Subsurface. Then use
his dctool executable (If I remember correctly it can do Bluetooth and
it is extremely flexible) and see if you can trace the pO2 values.

I am not sure this is what you may want to hear, but assume that (if you
want the problem solved) you need to take the initiative. You may
possibly be the only person in this circle which has a divecan Petrel so
you are in the best position to address the problem.


While I do not pretend anything (of course), regarding your questions I can
assure you that I made everything I could as end user. I gave
- Shearwater desktop screenshots
- Shearwater xml exported logs
- Subsurface xml logs
- Subsurface bin dumps
- dctool dump files

My only fault was not filing a bug report on Github to resume everything in
one place.
I even asked on the list if someone else was using a Shearwater Petrel ECCR controller and, maybe experiencing the same behavior. No reply. So I don't
know if it's my specific unit or not.
BTW I recently updated Petrel firmware to the latest version without
results. While it's possible I'm the only Shearwater ccr user on this list, we are speaking of the most common eccr controller on the market nowadays.
It's used on countless rebreathers not an obscure dive computer
implementation.

Everything started months ago when I discovered that pO2 samples reported by Subsurface were completely different (and wrong) from Shearwater desktop.
There was a long email thread in which AFAIK no solution was found: my
Petrel is strange.
Maybe I missed something and Jef or Anton modified something. I don't know but at some point pO2 samples disappeared from Subsurface hence I opened this thread but I'm failing to understand what "default calibration" means and why in my logbook I find the same device listed with random number of
sensors.
I asked again today because because even a "guy you must die!" reply it's
ok but I got no replies at all.

Sorry for the lack of response, but for the last few weeks, I was just too busy with non-libdivecomputer related things.

Anyway, the problem is as follows. The shearwater devices record two different things:

   1. The average/voted ppO2.

2. The value from each O2 sensor. Unfortunately this value is not the ppO2 value, but the raw millivolt measurement from the sensor. In order to convert this value to a ppO2 value, we need to take into account the calibration values.

Last time I checked, shearwater desktop only shows the average/voted ppO2 (#1). It doesn't show the individual ppO2 from each sensor (#2) at all (e.g. no millivolt values nor the converted ppO2).

Now, originally libdivecomputer only reported the average/vote ppO2. Later on we figured out how the sensor calibration worked, and this was replaced with the ppO2 value from the individual sensors. But afterwards we also discovered that some devices (like the one from Davide) don't seem to store the calibration values correctly, and leave them at their default values (2100). I have no idea why this happens. Anyway, because applying those calibration values produces incorrect ppO2 values, I added some code to detect this case and disable the ppO2 from the sensors. Since the average/voted ppO2 was already disabled earlier, that also means you won't get any ppO2 values at all anymore.

For those bogus default calibration values, there is not much we can do about that. Without the (correct) calibration values, we simply can't calculate the ppO2 values. So unless the calibration values are for some reason stored elsewhere, and we just don't know about this, we're simply stuck here. Shearwater desktop doesn't show this info, so it's difficult to tell what's going on.

The only part that we can do something about, is restoring the average/voted ppO2 again. That's already on my todo list. But right now the libdivecomputer api doesn't have a way to indicate the type of the ppO2 value (e.g. average/voted or from an individual sensor), so that would cause confusing. So this will require some (backwards incompatible) changes, and that's why it's not done yet.

Jef
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