Taken from test answers by fifth and sixth graders: "Some people can tell what time it is by looking at the sun, but I have never been able to make out the numbers." Cheers Keith ======================================================================== Keith Manison Phone (876)927-2148 Director, Information Systems Unit Fax (876)927-0997 University of the West Indies Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mona, Kingston 7, Jamaica W.I.