I incorrectly said that that Chaco Canyon is in Arizona, but it's in New
Mexico.  That's a great website  with good still photos.  But you really
need to see the time lapse movie to get a real feel for how it works.


John


John L. Carmichael Jr.
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson Arizona, USA
Tel: 520-696-1709
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com
Stained Glass Sundials Website:
http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: Stab Dial


> Hi Edley:
>
> The most interesting, and only "stab" Dial I've ever heard about is the
> famous one at Chaco Canyon in Arizona (That's a neat term for them, or how
> about "dagger dial"?)  We saw a great video on it at the Tucson NASS
> conference.  It showed a time lapse movie of the solstice dagger of light
> piercing a spiral hieroglyphic drawing on the rocks.  The gnomon was two
> narrow slabs of natural rock that were vertically stacked with a small
space
> between.
>
> To visit it you need to get special permission from the Indians that live
> there.
>
> John
>
> p.s. Your design is intriguing.  Have you thought about maybe making a
model
> of one?
>
>
> John L. Carmichael Jr.
> 925 E. Foothills Dr.
> Tucson Arizona, USA
> Tel: 520-696-1709
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sundial Sculptures Website: http://www.sundialsculptures.com
> Stained Glass Sundials Website:
> http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Stained_Glass
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Edley McKnight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 1:30 AM
> Subject: Stab Dial
>
>
> > Dear Shadow Watchers,
> >
> > If anyone is interested in any "stab", "slit" or "groove" dials I'd
enjoy
> > communicating with them.
> >
> > Here is a short introduction to a couple of them.
> >
> > Stab Dials - One
> >
> > If one were to find, or place a round circular
> > column so that it's length pointed toward the north or south
> > celestial pole, one could create a sundial as follows:
> >
> > 1.  Place a non-elastic cord around the column, marking where the
> > ends crossed.
> > 2.  Divide the cord into twenty-four equal parts between the
> > marks above.
> > 3.  At some exact hour of sunlight align a blade (of 47 degrees
> > width and a half degree sharpness) for minimum shadow width with
> > the blade width parallel to the axis of the column, blade
> > centerline at right angles to the axis of the column, and sink it
> > into the surface sufficient to hold it in place.
> > 4.  Place the cord around the column, aligning one mark with the
> > blade and mark the 24 spots.
> > 5.  Re-sink the blade into the column at each mark corresponding
> > to the hours of sunlight, keeping the blade width aligned up and
> > down the column and the point directly toward the center of the
> > column. Marking them to show the correct hours.
> >
> > When the blade is inserted into any of these stab marks it would
> > indicate with a minimum shadow the correct hour of the day by
> > local solar time, thus being a "shadow plane" dial.
> >
> > If the blade is lost, or off doing something else somewhere, the
> > light reaching to the depth of the stab in the wood would
> > indicate the same time.
> >
> >  This is one kind of stab dial.
> >
> > If one makes the same stabs into other surfaces, maintaining the
> > same alignment, it can be seen that they would work as well, even
> > if the stabs were scattered about rather than in order.
> >
> > Since it is difficult to look fully into the stab marks, some
> > people widen the marks into grooves roughly a quarter of an inch
> > wide or so and find they work well also when fully lit.  These
> > seem to be commonly called "Groove dials"  Others extend the
> > blade tip just through a thick shell, putting a colored filter
> > over the spot to indicate that certain time.
> >
> > I've come upon such insights from conversations and thought.  If
> > there is a body of written material on these dials or related
> > ones, I would very much enjoy being informed of them!
> >
> > Edley McKnight
> >
> > 43.126N 123.358W
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >
>
>
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>


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