Has anybody got the official response from Oracle ? Our Oracle sales rep. has been trying for several days without any success.

Steve

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:17:59 +0000
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I have a couple of Sunray laptops you can arrange from me.

We never used them!

--
Leigh Porter


On 18 Jul 2013, at 13:02, "Garry Taylor" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

We were just about to buy another Sun Ray laptop, and perhaps upgrade the 
server software too. Not much money really, but we'd have used up a lot of time 
doing it. Thinlinc does look pretty nice, hope they get more business out of 
this.

Garry


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On 18 Jul 2013, at 12:47, "Garry Taylor" 
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Hi Thomas,
I expect I'll pass on it, I'm sure SGD is excellent, but as a tiny operation, 
dealing with the big boys can be torturous. Sun was OK, IBM has been largely 
impossible to navigate, the moment I express my tiny budget, they practically 
hung up on me!

If I can deal with a much smaller shop like Axel, I'll grab that opportunity 
with both hands..
Totally, oracle and IBM are a pain unless you give them lots of money.

I think I'll go with thinlinc, I've got a server ready and ill migrate clever 
staff next week.

Glad I heard this now as I was about to buy more rays and pay for support for a 
year.

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:19:05 +0100
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Hi Leigh, very kind but I think we'll see how with go with VNC, if it works
OK, then we can get some hardware Axel units if we decide we need them.

Cheers

Garry


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  I have a couple of Sunray laptops you can arrange from me.

  We never used them!

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On 18 Jul 2013, at 13:02, "Garry Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote:

   We were just about to buy another Sun Ray laptop, and perhaps upgrade
the server software too. Not much money really, but we'd have used up a lot
of time doing it. Thinlinc does look pretty nice, hope they get more
business out of this.

  Garry


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Leigh Porter <
[email protected]> wrote:

On 18 Jul 2013, at 12:47, "Garry Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Thomas,
I expect I'll pass on it, I'm sure SGD is excellent, but as a tiny
operation, dealing with the big boys can be torturous. Sun was OK, IBM has
been largely impossible to navigate, the moment I express my tiny budget,
they practically hung up on me!
If I can deal with a much smaller shop like Axel, I'll grab that
opportunity with both hands..

  Totally, oracle and IBM are a pain unless you give them lots of money.

I think I'll go with thinlinc, I've got a server ready and ill migrate
clever staff next week.

Glad I heard this now as I was about to buy more rays and pay for support
for a year.

--
Leigh

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:20:33 -0400
From: Chris Kordish <[email protected]>
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Oracle bought the largest share of their SW customer base who owned Sun HW and 
then simply jacked up the HW support prices.  A very shortsighted strategy 
indeed....

Further Oracle had already laid plans/direction w.r.t. Linux vs. Solaris x86. 
Linux already garnered most all of the mind share in the ISV world.  Even 
though Solaris had so much more its hard to fight against the ISV machine and 
win. That was how SPARC lead for so long.. But SPARC is pretty much dead now... 
being overrun by Linux/Windows daily....an error of prior leadership@SUNW....

As a Solaris aficionado this was quite sad.  As a Sunray aficionado recent news 
is just horrible..

Chris
cskordish at gmail dot com

Rodney Sparapani <[email protected]> wrote:

On 07/17/2013 07:41 AM, Jim Klimov wrote:
snip, snip, snip ...
Even if Oracle's reasons were monetary, I don't think they
dumped this direction because it was not profitable - it
might have been just not ridiculously lucrative, and the
big corporation does not meddle with small sales. After
all, some of this list's members, I understand, have thin
client businesses? Do they at least sustain themselves? ;)

//Jim
Hi Jim et al.

The whole thing is mystifying to me.  Why pay billions for Sun if you
aren't going to move forward with their tech?  As far as I can see,
the only thing that survives is Java, Solaris and SPARC.  But, Oracle
could have kept their foot in those for nothing without buying
Sun!?!  Certainly, IBM, or whomever, would have kept those going.  It
just doesn't make sense ;o(

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