It is just the single NAT64 that is in question (I also tend to think that is 
broken for IPsec clients?).

Popular IPsec clients work perfectly via 464xlat (double NAT64).



-----Original Message-----
From: sunset4 [mailto:sunset4-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bjoern A. Zeeb
Sent: 09 December 2016 16:33
To: Bill Fenner
Cc: ip...@ietf.org; sunset4@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [sunset4] ietf-nat64 - Internet VPN clients

On 9 Dec 2016, at 16:07, Bill Fenner wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Heatley, Nick <nick.heat...@ee.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The sunset4 minutes suggest NAT64 SSID to become the default?
>>
>> Just checking, is there any summary on how VPN clients behaved on the
>> nat64 SSID following the event?
>>
>
> Just an anecdote, not actual information: I have two different ways to 
> contact my office VPN server (SSL VPN and IPSEC); neither one worked 
> from NAT64.  The vendor documentation says that they don't support 
> IPv6 transport for the SSL VPN; I do not know what went wrong with the 
> IPSEC VPN.  The vendor introduced support for IPSEC with v6 transport 
> in their newest software, to which we'll upgrade soon; perhaps that 
> upgrade will include whatever is required for it to work through NAT64 
> too.  Their support matrix still says that even the newest software 
> does not support SSL VPN over IPv6.

That’s maybe for the ipsec wg but while native IPv6 VPN has been working fine 
for me for ages, how would a NAT64 policy exchange actually look like (I am 
thinking about what is done for IPv4 NAT or double NAT within the same address 
family);  I doubt that different AFs on each end as part of the policy are 
specified to work, so I’d not expect IPsec VPNs to work across a NAT64 (from a 
v6 to a v4 endpoint);  someone surprise me and say with IKEv2 you can?  Someone 
surprise me and say with a double NAT64 it can work?

/bz

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