Jeff, I ran a Realtek 8139 chip 10/100Mbps NIC, bought as a generic PC part, in the lower slots (3-6 all tried at some stage), without problems in OS9.x and 10.1, 10.2 for the last few years. Obtained the drivers directly from the Realtek site at <www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?series=16&Software=True#16Others>. Seem to recall having to hack the OS9 driver using ResEdit (should be instructions about it somewhere on the web) for it to run properly for that OS, though no problems in OS10.2.

Ran into problems however, when I tried to do the same with a Gigabit NIC using the Realtek 8169S chip. Drivers from Realtek caused all sorts of problems resulting in a freeze in OS10.2. Recently thought I'd try out 10.4 and that seemed to cure the problem with the 8169S chip (drivers native in 10.4), although there is no OS 9.x versions of drivers for this card.

On the OS10.4 install had to do it in a very roundabout way.
As this latest OS is on DVD my Mac ROM SCSI CD drive wasn't going to cut it.
Tried using an external Pioneer DVD writer through firewire with no luck, even though read on OWC and xlr8yourmac.com sites that some have been able to install in this way and firewire startup is supported in latest version of XPostFacto. Had to then try an IDE DVD drive through my ACard IDE PCI card - but the DVD drive would not be recognised on my ACard 6860M. Go back to an older ACard 6260 I had lying around, the IDE DVD drive was recognised and the install went ahead without problem. Once OS10.4 was installed properly though, the ACard 6260 would no longer see the DVD in OS10.4, but external firewire DVD writer was now recognised.

So anyway a roundabout install, but it can be done and have had no problems with stability, even though only have a G4 running at 500MHz on an XLR8 carrier card, seems smooth enough for the second computer that my S900 has now become.

Pete (the guy who coined the 'RAM sandwich' moniker for Jeff's excellent RAM testing config. suggestion, ex-Osaka, now in Sydney)

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 03:49:39 -0500
From: Jeff Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [SM] RealTek Ethernet Cards?

Is anyone using a RealTek based Ethernet card in their S900 in the lower slots?

Apparently, their 8139 chipset finds its way on to many cards and the Mac drivers are downloadable at RealTek's website.

The reason I ask is that I want to know if their drivers work properly when the ethernet card is behind a PCI-PCI Bridge--i.e. in the lower slots of the S900 or J700.

If they do, then I may give the SIIG USB/FireWire/Enet combo card a try. It uses the 8139D chipset and they get three devices on the card by sticking them all behind a PCI-PCI Bridge of course.

The other thing I need to check is whether their USB and FireWire chipsets are supported by the Apple drivers. Anyone know how or where to find that information? The chipsets are NEC 720100AGM-8EY for the USB and TI143AB23 for the Firewire (I think). Actually, I just Googled on the USB chipset number and brought up specs on another card that uses it, which claims OS8.6 and forward compatibility (OSX required for USB 2).

And googling and a visit to TI's site suggests that SIIG sent me a typo and the Firewire chipset should be TSB43AB23, which TI lists as OHCI 1.1 compliant. Is that the requirement to work with the Mac drivers? It seems like I've read that somewhere.

Jeff Walther


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