»Q« wrote:
In<news:poqdnxdfxsh75bpwnz2dnuvz_vbi4...@mozilla.org>,
Rufus<n...@home.com> wrote:
Benoit Renard wrote:
Phillip Jones wrote:
Never mind you still can't see a users point of view.
The user's point of view is irrelevant in this case, and not what
we were talking about. It was a development issue, plain and
simple.
...if users aren't being considered in a development path, that's a
pretty inconsiderate way to "develop" a product.
That's a huge "if". The consideration, explained dozens of times so
far, was not "users want a form manager but we don't care" but rather
"users want a form manager but there's not one or a way to get one in a
realistic time frame".
SeaMonkey 1.1 was released well over three years ago, which is
approximately forever in browser timelines. Projects that don't make
new releases wither and die. 2.0 took so long because there was so
much work to be done and so few developers dedicated to doing it. Did
they do every bit of work any every might wanted them to? Well, no,
because there aren't enough of them or enough time for that. What they
did do was put a lot of work in to produce a modern browser suite.
I find it amazing that some people conclude that the devs either don't
care about users or actively work against users' wishes, when those
same people continue to use the browser suite (either 1.1.x or
2.0.x) that those same devs have spent years to produce.
Is it quite possible because there absolutely nothing out on the market
any better than SeaMonkey. Absolutely nothing. I have Safari, iCab,
FireFox, OmniWeb, Opera, Camino. SeaMonkey blows the socks off of all of
them.
The devs have asked for and gotten a lot of constructive feedback from
users in this group, but multiple posts complaining about the same
feature ad nauseam and filled with all manner of malicious, unfounded
allegations about devs are only sapping energy that could be used to
improve SeaMonkey.
There was no accusations that developers were sapping energy. SM2 is a
greatest Browser/Mail/news Product bar none. There is nothing on Earth
and possibly Mars any better. Is it perfect. No. Are we disappointed in
left out items. You Betcha!
IMO, what users who want a forms manager should now do is look for an
extension developer who might provide one; there are some for Firefox
that people could check out and encourage the authors to make
SM-compatible. At least one complainer has already said he's
completely unwilling to do that, but others could do it.
If your referring to whom I think you are. He said that as a lowly user
such as he, he would be ignored, an individual user has no standing with
developers. And, he didn't have the funds to pay him. If he had money,
and influence he would be on the phone with him in a heart beat.
An individual user has no influence with a developer.
--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org
mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com
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