Danny Kile wrote:
As I mentioned in an above post I tried that and I always do a download
and save. Then I do a virus scan and a Malware scan on everything I
download before I install. Well, I got twelve hits on MalwareBytes so I
did not go any further. And before you ask I did download it from Foxit.

PDF handling tools is a class of software where most of the non-Adobe alternatives are likely to be bundled with add-on software. That doesn't mean that the tools are problematic, just that you have to be careful, with installation, to make sure that you opt out of all the stuff that's offered.

The one exception that I'm aware of is SumatraPDF, which is very small, but it doesn't offer a plugin option that allows you to call it from Seamonkey. And I have not yet found any free PDF writers (at least ones that are virtual printers) that don't bundle add-ons in their installers. (The exceptions that I know about are tools that allow "save as" that include PDF as an option -- LibreOffice and the Opera browser).

I don't believe that Foxit makes use of the OpenCandy scanner (An installer with OpenCandy will scan your registry for what's installed, then call home, then offer another download, based on what it finds). That one is a privacy issue with the scanner. However, the downloads offered may be scummy.

With Malware scanners (especially the ones that are more than Anti-Virus), it's useful to pay attention to the results, of what is reported. Some scanners can be over-aggressive, not distinguishing something that's truly malicious from tools that offer Potentially Unwanted Software, or even tracking cookies. Each of those has issues, but they're of varying threat and severity. The problem with all-in-one security suites (or scanners such as MBAM or SuperAntiSpyware), is that they tend to cater to the people who consider security to be a yes/no thing -- "I just want install a tool that I can set and forget, and then I'll be secure!".

With Foxit, I haven't found significant issues with unwanted stuff. There has been annoyance with them installing some sort of Cloud tool, where it's uninstallable, but where there's no option of declining installation -- and it comes back with each upgrade installation. However, the last two or three times I've upgraded a machine that have Foxit, I haven't seen the Cloud tool available for uninstall, meaning it's either more closely bundled, or that they quit adding it.

I did run the most current installer through the scanner at VirusTotal.com, and 54 scanners (including MalwareBytes) all report negative -- no positives at all, not even by obscure scanners.

I should note that while I have no problem with recommending Foxit as a credible alternative to Adobe, the thing with the Cloud reader was what caused me to replace Foxit with PDFXChange Reader on my main working machine. To me, PDFX feels a little lighter and faster than Foxit, but I haven't really dug in that deep. However, PDFX does have bundled stuff, and you have to be careful on installation, to make sure you decline the extra junk. But once it's installed, I haven't found any problems.


BTW, I do owe you an apology, on version handling with Adobe. I indicated that 10.1.4 was the most current 10.x release, and as you've discovered, there's been several updates since (including one released today). 10.x is still supported, but one of the things that both 10.x and 11.x are now doing (since, apparently, they're not on Adobe's current development track), that updates have to be individually downloaded and applied. I haven't seen Reader 10 in some time, but my experience with 11 is that if you use the Help -> check for updates tool, instead of installing the latest update to 11, you'll get a forced upgrade to the Continuous Track for Acrobat Reader DC.

Smith



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