On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:16:24 PM UTC-4, BigBlue wrote:
> [Seamonkey 2.49.5 on Windows 10 (up to date)]
> 
> I've used Seamonkey for many years, mainly for the Mail client. Love it. For 
> the past couple of months I've had problems when starting Mail (using 
> v2.49.2) where it would crash almost immediately after opening. It would, 
> however, instantiate the Mail window for a second or so, and sometimes if I 
> clicked into a folder in one of my mail accounts in that initial second it 
> would just work normally. Usually took me 4-6 startup attempts to get it to 
> stay running. Once running it was mostly solid for until I rebooted or exited 
> Mail. Nothing else was affected. I could run Browser, Address Book, Composer 
> just fine all the time.
> 
> Yesterday I realized that Seamonkey was no longer auto-updating so I updated 
> manually to 2.49.5 (latest). With this version the crashes still happen but 
> are now immediate after launching it (either directly via the -mail flag or 
> by clicking the envelope icon in Browser). It doesn't launch the window at 
> all now so my trick above is useless.
> 
> I tried all the usual troubleshooting steps:
> 
>  - Start with a new profile. With a new profile it will run Mail one time, 
> but on the next launch it goes back to crashing. This is regardless of 
> whether I set up a mail account or not. 
>  - Clean install, by doing full uninstall and removing the 
> C:\Users\myuser\AppData\Local\Mozilla\Seamonkey\Profiles\<profilename> folder 
> entirely. Same as above.
>  - Run Windows in safe mode. Same result.
>  - Revert back to 2.49.2. Same result.
>  - Disable hardware acceleration. Same.
>  - Disable my antivirus software. Same.
>  
> Bear in mind that at this point I have zero mail accounts set up and am 
> totally default on all Seamonkey settings, with nothing added or changed. The 
> only way I can get it to work now is by starting Seamonkey in safe mode. When 
> I do that it works fine. But obviously this is not ideal, especially since it 
> won't save any UI changes between sessions (reordering columns, expanding 
> e-mail account trees, etc.). I have configured my mail accounts while in 
> Seamonkey safe mode and things work great between starts as long as I use 
> safe mode every time. It is just the lack of control on the above that I 
> don't like. I suppose I could just always run it in safe mode and get used to 
> the lack of ability to change things, but I'm bothered by the whole situation.
> 
> Since I did a full uninstall/reinstall and did not add any themes or add-ons 
> I know those are not the issue. So what else is it about safe mode that could 
> allow mail to start when all of the other things are ruled out?
> 
> Thanks!

I'm getting worried. I still have 2.49.4 and it is working fine.  These recent 
threads about serious problems with any version after 2.49.4 has me leery of 
updating to 2.49.5.  These threads tell me that you folks are obviously out of 
my league of expertise. Is it safe for me to go to 2.49.5?  TIA.  Bud Krueger
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