Walt,

I agree with Dave that it's not immediately obvious why this happened.  I don't know 
of any way to delete a file from within FMP.  Perhaps someone made a mistake in doing 
a backup, and copied an old version on top of the new?

As far as recreating the groups file, that's pretty easy.  I can tell you how to do 
it, but I don't have time right now.  I'll try to get to it tonight.

Matt

PS Is there no-one from egroup/TechRocks monitoring this list anymore?

At 04:32 PM 11/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>Our current status is that the group file is missing. Looking through old
>>backups it has been missing for quite a while. All the household information
>>about individuals seems to be intact so that you only notice that groups is
>>missing when you try to add someone to a household. I did find a very old
>>groups file, missing almost everything (only 2 entries).  I looked through
>>the scripts and did not see one which would recreate the group file but it
>>looks like it can be done. So here's hoping someone else has had the problem
>>and created a script to recreate it.
>
>Looks like you're in over the head of most everyone on the list. I've 
>never hear of a similar problem. I don't believe there is a script to 
>recreate the group file. What did you have in mind to do that? I 
>think the information to recreate the groups file is in the several 
>fields in the names table relating to householding, but it doesn't 
>look easy to parse it out. Best of luck, and if you get it figured 
>out, please let the list know.
>
>>
>>Secondary problem:
>>
>>While diagnosing the problem I discovered that we have been running without
>>all the files opened for a while. If we were in all files open mode, I
>>presume we would have gotten a nasty message about group being missing the
>>next time we started FMP and could have then gone back to a more recent
>>backup.
>
>...
>
>>  I am quite sure no one deleted
>>the group file explicitly as all but one of the users doesn't have a clue of
>>how to do that. Are there bugs in FMP that sometimes delete files? or
>>perhaps just confusing dialog boxes that might have convinced someone to do
>>something bad? All the files are managed by FM Server.
>
>I believe that the groups file must have been deleted by someone 
>explicitly, although accidentally. I have never heard of FileMaker 
>deleting files undetected. Much easier to imagine someone 
>accidentally deleting a file.
>
>
>-- 
>Dave Shaw      Northwest Classics, Inc
>tel: 206-954-7526    fax: 206-625-1338
>
>
Matthew Scholtz
Evaluator and IS Coordinator
Health Initiatives For Youth (HIFY)
www.hify.com

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