Have you tried averageOutputLimit ? Does it work? On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 10:25:33PM +1200, Phillip Hutchings wrote: > >>[snip] > >1. My experience is that I can get a limit of 5 Gb of *international* > >traffic a > >month (170 Mb a day) with Node bandwidth limits of > >Overall 0 > >Output 750 > >Input 0 > > > >Yup, a limit of 750 bytes per second. I need to experiment more with > >the > >Overall setting. Freenet is the single most effective utility I have > >found > >for consuming bandwidth. Better than BitTorrent. > > > >When the bandwidth level drops this low I get a lot of what I > >characterise as > >"churn". The messageSendTimeRequest shoots up - I guess because > >messages can't > >get out fast enough through the small output channel. So then my node > >rejects > >incoming connections, but it's still sending outgoing requests (albeit > >slowly) > >so I'm rejecting these replies to my requests because my > >messageSendTimeRequest > >is so high. I suspect a lot of things get retried. I suspect my > >efficiency is > >low. But it works, and keeps me in the bandwidth cap. > > Yeah, that's what I get when I turn it down really low. Not really > surprising, maybe freenet should adjust its priorities on a low > bandwidth connection or something, but I don't know the internals yet > > >2. I really suspect that more serious bandwidth limiting should be > >done at an > >operating system (router) level rather than at the Freenet level. I > >suspect > >that's what you'll be told around here. That way you can also take > >account of > >things happening other than your node. :-) > > > >So I've been working towards a Linux traffic shaper that gives sets no > >limits > >on traffic with domestic IP addresses and limits international traffic > >so the > >total monthly limit hits 5 Gb (my cap). > > Yeah, I'm looking at it, but there's no decent way to detect freenet > packets.
That's a feature :). > I was looking at patching the source so you could specify the > source port range for outgoing connections. If you specified 10 ports > or so and freenet bound them on startup so they were captured then, and > used iptables to MARK the packets you could do some really decent > limiting. > > >3. What I don't know is how my Freenet node will respond when some > >(domestic) > >IPs get a high bandwidth (8,000 k/s) and other (international) IPs get > >a low > >bandwidth (0.75 k/s). I guess my node will always give a constant > >recommendation for how much traffic it wants, and this will oscillate > >wildly > >according to how many domestic versus international nodes are > >connecting. I'm > >*hoping* domestic nodes will learn that it is worthwhile connecting to > >me, but > >they may be put off by the average they get. I don't know. Someday > >when Toad is > >bored maybe he could put his fine mind to at least thinking about the > >impacts > >of this bandwidth disparity and how a node configuration could be set > >to handle > >this. > > > >It may be that this scenario ( maix of low and high bandwidth channels > >into a > >node) is relatively uncommon worldwide, and isn't worth coding for, > >but I > >wonder how common it is, and whether it may become more common. > > > >Comments welcome. > > Domestically I am willing to give up to 5k/sec out and 15k/sec in (due > to my connection speeds), internationally I would go lower but monitor > the usage. I'd like to cut off after ~100MB/day. I know this is > sub-optimal for freenet, but with caps that's the reality. Have you tried averageOutputBandwidth (in the config file)? > > One thing that I can think of is limiting the size of incoming files > not requested by the node directly - stop splitfiles and things going > through. I'm more interested in the information, not movies, but I > can't think of a tidy way to implement this in a few minutes. I know > it's not really in line with the freenet ideal, and also it could > compromise privacy, but it's a thought. Well, if it was widely supported, it would just result in moviez being split into smaller chunks... -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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