On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 05:04:53AM +0000, Wayne McDougall wrote:
> Toad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 09:05:42AM +0000, Wayne McDougall wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps. That would also lead to high message send times though. Freenet
> > needs to know what the limit is even if you use external limiting.
> 
> Fair enough. But given shared bandwidth needs shouldn't a node adapt. 
> How quickly (if at all) does a node adapt to having less bandwidth than is
> specified in the limits? How well does that work?

Not terribly well, because of high level bandwidth limiting. The node
needs to know how much bandwidth is available to estimate how much is
being used and therefore how many queries to allow.
> 
> > > So I've been working towards a Linux traffic shaper that gives sets no 
> limits 
> > > on traffic with domestic IP addresses and limits international traffic
>  so the
> > > total monthly limit hits 5 Gb (my cap).
> > 
> > HOW do you determine what is local? Freenet could maybe support this.
> 
> A list of IP blocks in CIDR notation. Which in turn is derived from
> http://ftp.apnic.net/stats/apnic/delegated-apnic-20040106
> <a href="http://ftp.apnic.net/stats/apnic/delegated-apnic-20040106";>a
> periodically updated list</a> - picking out my country gives my domestic
> (zero bandwidth cost) IPs.

Ah cool.
> 
> > Are you in Spain by any chance? The last poster on this topic was..
> 
> New Zealand. (Bang goes my anonymity). I think people (I use the word 
> loosely) from Australia would have similar issues. And Spain. 
> 
> I watch (with envy) discussions on bandwidth and pricing and (sadly) I
> think the world is moving more to caps (monthly limits) rather than open.

It certainly is in Oz and NZ.

> So I think that this is an area that Freenet should address at some time.
> I'm biased of course. I'm also willing to help since I think you've
> commented that you lack develoeprs living in a low bandwidth capped
> environment. I don't know I can help much but the offer is there.

There is sadly no priority in it ATM. To help one user run a node in a
wierd situation... hmm. I'll think about it.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.

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