On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 11:48:29PM -0500, David Masover wrote:
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> Toad wrote:
> | On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 01:33:30AM -0500, David Masover wrote:
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> |>Unfortunately, I can't work on this at all right now.  My freenet node
> |>looks fine, only I get a connection close from FProxy the instant I try
> |>connecting -- that is, 0 bytes sent/recieved from netcat, "The document
> |>contains no data" from Firefox.
> |
> |
> | Ouch. Anything in the logs? Tried restarting? What build?
> 
> Only about 20 times, how do I check the build without a working FProxy?

java -cp freenet.jar freenet.Version on a command line?
> 
> Trying to update to latest stable:
> Usually in the logs, it at least tells me something like "starting
> Freenet, Build XXXXX"
> 
> Now, I get a java.io.IOException as the first log message.

Show me it.
> 
> Takes more than 3 mins for port 8888 to start listening.
> When it does, wget reports "connection reset by peer".
> 
> Deleting everything in /var/freenet except seednodes.ref, restarting...
> 
> It's been 5 minutes.  Log (/var/freenet/freenet.log) is still empty.
> Still not responding.
> 
> Some time later, I check back, and -- yet again -- Connection reset by peer.
> 
> For debugging purposes (I'm smart enough to remove this once I get
> freenet working), I'm going to leave this atrocity running overnight,
> with logs and conf files online:
> 
> http://slaphack.com/freenet.log

Thanks. That log appears to start from well into execution. Ah, no, it's
because of logLevel=error.

Hmm. This is a result of Yet Another 1.4.2 Big* Bug. I suggest you
upgrade to 1.4.2-r05 or 1.5.0-beta2, or downgrade to 1.4.1. What build
of the JVM are you running? You can find out by running the following
on a command line:

java -version

> http://slaphack.com/freenet.conf
> 
> |
> |>| of the user. If a non-anonymous search solves one part without
> |>| affecting the other, what's the harm of it?
> |>
> |>None, as long as it's _absolutely_clear_ which parts are solved.  If you
> |>make the publisher anonymous but the readers known, you don't want
> |>someone saying "ooh, freenet" and then using it to visit Porn of Love
> |>from an office computer.  Or worse.  Make huge, bold, red warnings.
> |
> |
> | Hehe. That's their own silly fault ;). But yes, warnings probably a good
> | idea.
> 
> Yes, and yes.
> n00bishness should be no barrier to revolution.
> 
> | Google keeps the entire index in RAM.
> 
> *jaw drops*
> 
> You learn something new every day.
> 
> |>[...]
> |>| to reach the users of freenet and hushmail; I want it to
> |>| reach the huge and clueless masses who watch CNN and use
> |>| hotmail. And I also want to protect my anonymity damn well.
> |>
> |>What about implementing a freenet client as a Java applet, thus allowing
> |>"freenet gateways"?  You'd need that (no _percieved_ download/install of
> |>software) in order to reach these huge and clueless masses.
> |
> |
> | Not possible. Java applets are not able to connect to servers other than
> 
> Are not allowed to.  They seem to be able to, if the user clicks "yes"
> on a "do you trust these people?" dialog box.

Are they? Hmm. If you can prove that that would be really interesting.
However I don't see Freenet running well as a Java applet, because it
won't run for long enough...
> 
> | running a public proxy. However tens of millions of lusers actually know
> | how to install software.
> 
> Sometimes the problem is "knowing how".  Sometimes it's "being allowed
> to".  Not everyone owns their own computer.  Of course, if you don't own
> your own computer, how can you trust it?  One-way trust.  Suppose my bro
> trusts me, but I don't trust him, I have root, and he wants Freenet.  Or
> suppose someone doesn't care about their own anonymity, but wants
> Freenet on a public internet terminal.  The possibilities are endless...
> 
> Most end-user types I know don't ever upgrade their software as long as
> it seems to work, and few upgrade even when it stops working -- they
> reinstall.  Web interface solves all of that, as long as browser cache /
> web proxies behave themselves.
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.

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