On Tuesday 10 November 2009 06:42:02 mih...@riseup.net wrote:
> I'd also ask why it is physically based in the UK 

Freenet is not based in the UK. I am based in the UK.

> which is undoubtedly the 
> western country most repressive of internet use.

Definitely not true. A number of european countries block stuff - often 
judicially - for gambling or other silly reasons, whereas in the UK the *only* 
blocking so far is Cleanfeed, and discussions on blocking terrorist 
advocacy/resourcing have apparently petered out, probably when they realised it 
was more useful to monitor it than block it ...
> 
> Only yesterday the 'interception modernatization programme' which would
> attempt to record all emails was dropped for 'tecnhical' reasons:
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/09/home-office-plan-data-storage

Fascinating, I thought it was a done deal. Of course it is technically 
challenging - they are not asking to store data (traffic data is actually a lot 
more useful most of the time), but parsing facebook traffic en masse to 
identify private contacts will be fairly expensive, given you have to 
constantly update it as facebook evolves ... It also applies to Skype, good 
luck there; for all we know it'll apply to Freenet too, could be fun! :)

I am very happy that they ditched the central database - it would have had a 
system of black boxes, which of course would be remotely reprogrammable to 
gather just about anything with no real supervision...

A side-issue is how to intercept the content of Skype calls (when you have a 
warrant, note that warrants are self-signed since RIPA) - this is technically 
rather challenging even with collusion from Skype if the user is smart.
> 
> M!
> 
> > First, I appreciate that Matthew had to "ban" Toni.  Open discussion
> > of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons.
> >
> > Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in
> > many countries. If Freenet ever becomes popular, it will undoubtedly
> > become illegal everywhere, more or less.
> >
> > With any luck, Freenet will be fully anonymous and secure by then.
> > Even now, this support list could be hosted anonymously and securely at
> > reasonable cost.
> >
> > And BTW, why is Freenet incorporated in the USA, and not somewhere
> > with lower legal and political risks?
> >
> > VolodyA! V Anarhist wrote:
> >
> >> bimbek wrote:
> >>
> >> > Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not
> >> > need to ban the poor guy.
> >> >
> >> > I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because
> >> > some US court would say that using freenet is illegal...
> >>
> >> Actually somebody will (whether or not it will be Matthew
> >> Toseland or not i don't know). Since i'm sure that if Freenet
> >> will become illegal, this e-mail list will have to shut down,
> >> thus de-facto "banning" everybody from it.
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  Ichi                          mailto:i...@xerobank.net
> >
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