:-D

my pleasure :-D

Have fun....

2009/1/21 Fuchs, Martin <martin.fu...@trendchiller.com>

> :-)
>
> For the usernames and passwords, there are no users, it's just me to
> configure the accounts so I hope it's a bit more secure ;-) thanks a lot for
> your help...
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Michael Schuh [mailto:michael.sc...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Januar 2009 01:18
> An: support@pfsense.com
> Betreff: Re: [pfSense Support] FTP Server in Routed DMZ
>
> :-D
> > Any objections against active FTP data ?
> No. Not really  (i think so), ftp-protocol is ftp-protocol regardless
> of the used ports....
>
> But objections against some ftp-Server-software.... *grin*
> like proftpd or some others with sporadic but serious bugs.....
> every time hold an open eye on Bug-Lists and  Security Certs ...
>
> in my own experience, most servers getting defaced
> through an buggy ftp-server.....first target for hackers,
> because many ftp-servers allow anonymous ftp-login or have
>  weak user accounts or passwords, this in combination with an
> buggy ftp-server is really dangerous....
>
> but this is eventually off topic.....for this list
>
> 2009/1/20 Fuchs, Martin <martin.fu...@trendchiller.com>:
> > Hi !
> >
> > I opened up port 20 for active FTP data from the DMZ now and the upper
> ports defined in the server for passive FTP data from WAN to DMZ...
> >
> > I works...
> >
> > Any objections against active FTP data ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > martin
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Michael Schuh [mailto:michael.sc...@gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Januar 2009 00:41
> > An: support@pfsense.com
> > Betreff: Re: [pfSense Support] FTP Server in Routed DMZ
> >
> > Hmm,
> > hi martin,
> >
> > i has made such a config, and i have for me realized, that
> > i have 2 options
> > a) ftp-Server w/ ftp-proxy on WAN, IIRC this needs special setup in
> XML-Config
> > also result is : i can't use the ftp-proxy on lan interface
> > I be not 100% sure but i believe i remember me that the activation of
> > ftp-proxy on WAN
> > is not possible from Browser-User-Interface,
> >
> > b) open ftp-highrange-ports from wan to ftp-server and you can use
> > ftp-proxy for users
> > from lan.....if you like to do so....
> >
> > i have used option b) because it is no security risk if no other
> > services listen on such a port
> > on the ftp-server-system, the port on the ftp-servers system is only
> opened if
> > a ftp-user made a transfer....this behavior underlays the
> > ftp-protocols features of
> > PASV switching. Other words active ftp-transfer or passive. this is
> > handled by the ftp-protocol
> > between server and each individual client.
> > with option b) you are on the secure side that every User ( if it has
> > experiences or not)
> > can make transfers from and to the ftp-server, regardless of
> transfer-mode.
> > Works all the time.
> >
> > Special attention is only needed if another Service listen on the ports
> > that you must open for ftp-server ( in almost cases not given).
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > michael
> >
> > 2009/1/20 Fuchs, Martin <martin.fu...@trendchiller.com>:
> >> No problem ;-)
> >>
> >> Thats the answer i expected...
> >>
> >> So there is really no way to accomplish this with some kind of
> FTP-helper used in pfSense to open up just a few ports... ?
> >> I really need the whole portrange for FTP to be opened as defined in the
> FTP-server ?
> >>
> >> Thanks so far for your help ;-)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> martin
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Michael Schuh [mailto:michael.sc...@gmail.com]
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Januar 2009 00:27
> >> An: support@pfsense.com
> >> Betreff: Re: [pfSense Support] FTP Server in Routed DMZ
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> in my possible solution NO, because you use the ftp-server w/o
> >> Proxy. Communication goes directly to your ftp-server.
> >> Please checkout also the portranges from your ftp-server
> >> if it is not an OpenFTPD (used by FreeBSD/OpenBSD). It can differ
> >> from the ports that i have described. (sorry i have forgotten to say,
> >> that my tips are related to this ftpd).
> >>
> >> The proxy is needed for the users in your holy internal LAN.
> >>
> >> 2009/1/20 Fuchs, Martin <martin.fu...@trendchiller.com>:
> >>> Should the FTP-helper service be activated or deactivated on the
> WAN-Interface ?
> >>>
> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >>> Von: Michael Schuh [mailto:michael.sc...@gmail.com]
> >>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Januar 2009 00:14
> >>> An: support@pfsense.com
> >>> Betreff: Re: [pfSense Support] FTP Server in Routed DMZ
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> solution:
> >>> Open the Ports described in man 4 ip IP_PORTRANGE_HIGH
> >>> referenced by man ftp-proxy or lookup in sysctl net.inet.ip.portrange
> >>> like:
> >>> net.inet.ip.portrange.hilast: 65535
> >>> net.inet.ip.portrange.hifirst: 49152
> >>> net.inet.ip.portrange.last: 65535
> >>> net.inet.ip.portrange.first: 49152
> >>>
> >>> from WAN to your FTP server and all gets fine.
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>>
> >>> michael.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2009/1/20 Fuchs, Martin <martin.fu...@trendchiller.com>:
> >>>> Hi !
> >>>>
> >>>> I have set up a FTP server in my DMZ with an official IP address.
> >>>> From WAN -> DMZ the IPs are routed (no NAT).
> >>>> I opened up port 21 from WAN -> DMZ for FTP but of course I cannot
> transfer any files.
> >>>> It seems to require some more ports, so I thought the FTP-helper on
> the WAN-side could be helpful, but this also does not work...
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have any idea how to set this up without opening this ton
> of ports FTP requires ?
> >>>>
> >>>> I know FTP is not the preferred way, but we need this :-(
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd be thankful for every hint...
> >>>>
> >>>> Active FTP is not really an option because most FTP-clients live
> behind NAT devices so there's the problem of the data-connection again...
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Martin
> >>>>
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