Hmm, not what I've found: I mean, really not what I've found. Sorry to 
disagree, but I've tried a number of systems and have found that the low-cost 
recorders that I've used, un-modded, have had unacceptable noise levels when 
cranked up.

Regards,

John


On 5 Nov 2013, at 21:45, Fons Adriaensen <f...@linuxaudio.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 03:16:42PM +0000, John Leonard wrote:
> 
>> It's not so much the microphone, but what you connect it to:
>> because of the relatively low sensitivity, you really need
>> a low-noise pre-amp.
> 
> Using the specs provided by Core Sound:
> 
> Self noise: 19 dB(A)
> Sensitiviy:  7 mv/Pa
> 
> a preamp with an EIN of -116 dBm(A) would produce as much
> noise as the mic. My cheap Edirol UA5 has an EIN of around
> -120 dBm(A), low-noise mic preamps are around 10 dB better.
> 
> Which means it's unlikely that the preamp will be the limiting
> factor, it will be either the mic or the ambient noise.
> 
> Ciao,
> 
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> FA
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