I have a number of  recordings using a tetramic and Tascam DR-680, the 
recordings are mostly:
church choirs among other recordings a full church with only singers  making a 
700+ choir singing Händel,
Jazz recordings ( Benny Goodman style)  in a club with audience eating and 
talking,
One Gospel recording with all of the public joining in,
A few short recordings of  rainy afternoons with a bit of thunderstorms from 
the Swedish archipelago.
A long recording of Early morning birdsong at sunrise 03:30, with absolutely no 
wind or man made background sounds, from a wooden glade in the archipelago.

Most of them can be distributed within this group and the ambisonic community 
if someone is interested and wants to listen.

Best Regards
Bo-Erik Sandholm



-----Original Message-----
From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Curtis Alcock
Sent: den 14 maj 2015 12:33
To: Surround Sound discussion group
Subject: Re: [Sursound] Converting 16 mic array recording to B format

Thank you everyone who contributed to answering my question. I am now fully 
convinced that using the DEMAND library would be next to useless and not worth 
the work involved in trying to make it (partially) usable. Pity really, as a 
database of everyday noise would be a useful resource - but only if it's done 
properly in the first place.

I am in the process of doing my own field recordings using a Brahma mic (been 
impressed with results so far: birdsong; a very noisy, reverberant restaurant; 
organ playing in a church) but as it will take some time to build up a complete 
library I was looking for some other material I could use, particularly every 
day environments.

Thanks, Richard, for your suggestion of ambisonia.com. I started there but was 
having trouble downloading the torrent files. (The internet access I have here 
(in a shared building) blocks torrent files so I need to download somewhere 
else then transfer.) Will continue to pursue this route.

Thanks again, everyone.

On 14 May 2015, at 19:11, Richard Lee <rica...@justnet.com.au> wrote:

> Duu.uuh!!  http://parole.loria.fr/DEMAND/DEMAND.pdf states
> 
> "the microphones of the array ... are not calibrated with respect to 
> each other, and so gain variations are to be expected: we found that 
> the energy in some channels is consistently higher than in other 
> channels. Algorithms working on this data should compensate for this 
> variation"
> 
> ie they haven't a clue what each capsule is doing.
> 
> This precludes any attempt at conversion to B-format and also of 
> beamforming.
> 
> I was hoping this might lead to a discussion about EigenMike and how 
> it might be made good enough to record music but this is certainly NOT 
> the vehicle.
> 
> I can't help feeling they should beg borrow or steal a TetraMic and 
> repeat their recordings.
> 
> Presently, about all you can say is they have a close bunch of 
> unspecified mikes in some sort of horizontal pattern.
> 
> Curtiss, if you are after some 'realistic' atmospheric background (and 
> this is something TetraMic and properly aligned Soundfields do better 
> than an ything else), try ambisonia.com and recordings by John Leonard 
> (soundmanjohn), Paul Doombusch, JH Roy & others.
> 
> John Leonard's specialty is WW2 aircraft flyovers but he includes a 
> lot of airfield noise too :)  He's also got some very realistic street 
> scenes, audience noise, applause etc too.
> 
> Aaron, you are right about SVD not being much use here as we have 
> multiple solutions but I was hoping to dream up something to help S/N at LF.
> 
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